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re: Odom will be accepting the DC job.

Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Stlox
Maryland Heights, MO
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:07 pm to
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HS coaches in the Mid South area are like Pimps


I'm sure he's right, and probably not just the Mid South.

I heard Pinkel talk about trying to recruit in the state of Texas in the early days. Said the HS HCs would keep him and staff from talking to the best recruits. Said, they were reserved for Texas, A&M, OU. He could recruit the next tier. That changed after Chase Daniel.
Posted by Stlox
Maryland Heights, MO
Member since Jul 2013
795 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

HS coaches in the Mid South area are like Pimps


I'm sure he's right, and probably not just the Mid South.

I heard Pinkel talk about trying to recruit in the state of Texas in the early days. Said the HS HCs would keep him and staff from talking to the best recruits. Said, they were reserved for Texas, A&M, OU. He could recruit the next tier. That changed after Chase Daniel.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 3:41 pm to
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d what he meant by that he said the HS coaches in the Mid South area are like Pimps. His words. They let there better players talk to the better teams coaches. MU has not been allowed to talk to the premier players in this area because the HS coaches


So it's like STL.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 5:20 pm to
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So it's like STL.



once a player has finished his Senior year in HS, his coach can basically do squat to stop him from going wherever he wants. Of course I know some of these kids look up to their coach like their daddy, but nobody can stop a school from sending a kid an offer letter to his house. These HS coaches are not the gestapo, even if they want to be.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 5:29 pm to
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player has finished his Senior year in HS, his coach can basically do squat to stop him from going wherever he wants.


Kids usually commit before they leave HS. And the coach plays a huge part in that. That's the reality of it. In theory, anything can happen. In reality, a kid from Rockhurst is far less likely to go to Mizzou.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 5:30 pm to
Can live with this.

I really would have liked Pelini. But with all the crap flying around him and it appears he has accepted a HC job at Youngstown, it appears it all worked out for the best.

Odom is a good safe choice.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:01 pm to
LINK

Memphis paper seems to think Odom to Mizzou
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:31 pm to
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Kids usually commit before they leave HS


yea i know, but that wouldn't stop a school from contacting that player, and if you can get him to visit you can flip him. Anything CAN happen.



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reedus23

Memphis paper seems to think Odom to Mizzou


like Arky St, Memphis is a nice stepping stone program, Odom is definitely bound for a bigger job, somewhere. But then, the same seems certain for Kuligowski. One of the important points is that Odom can obviously coach Linebackers, and Kul may or may not leave, depending on what kind of promotion he is offered. It's easy to draw the conclusion the job is at least partly Odoms to decline.

“There’s a lot of stuff out there, but I think the most important thing is that I take care of this (Memphis) team."


makes it sound like a "lot of stuff" is agents on the line.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 7:44 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:52 pm to
Odom is better than a "safe choice". He's one of the hottest young coordinators in all of CFB. What he's done at Memphis is truly astounding. We were just very fortunate there was a connection there. Love the hire.

RE: Kul I just can't imagine that Pinkel wouldn't have made sure he was good with this before doing it. I'm sure he'll be getting a nice pay bump and possibly a new title. GP knows how important this guy is.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:56 am to
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Odom is better than a "safe choice". He's one of the hottest young coordinators in all of CFB. What he's done at Memphis is truly astounding. We were just very fortunate there was a connection there. Love the hire.


We'll see.


I don't mind the hire. I'll hold my excitement until after he's had some time DCing in the SEC. I hope it does work out as a great hire.
Posted by Alphaman
KC, MO
Member since Nov 2013
54 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:56 am to
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I don't mind the hire. I'll hold my excitement until after he's had some time DCing in the SEC. I hope it does work out as a great hire.


He did DC against Ole Miss this year. Score was 7-3 going into the 4th quarter.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:36 am to
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He did DC against Ole Miss this year. Score was 7-3 going into the 4th quarter.



I did not know this. Thanks for sharing that.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17979 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:40 am to
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We'll see.


I don't mind the hire. I'll hold my excitement until after he's had some time DCing in the SEC. I hope it does work out as a great hire.


Both Florida and MSU tried to land him. He must have been good enough for them.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:03 am to
I don't know that they seriously looked at him but his name was bantied about with A&M, SC and Auburn too. Read some Memphis fans who thought Fuente might head to Nebraska at the time and they wanted Odom to take over as HC there. He's definitely developed a resume. So has Kul and I just hope they do what they have to in order to keep him happy.
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1836 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:25 am to
Memphis could be 11-1 this year. No offense at all agaisnt Ole Miss. But UCLA and Houston were games lost in the last 5 minutes. The UCLA game neither teams D showed up. All the wins by Memphis were Defense generated.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:59 am to
That game was also in a stretch when OM really had the offense rolling. It was a 7 game stretch where they were held under 30 only twice. Bama and Memphis.

I mean, of course, we don't know how it will work out but (realistically) I don't see how we could have gotten a guy with a better resume.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:25 am to
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He did DC against Ole Miss this year. Score was 7-3 going into the 4th quarter.


What was the final score in that game? Not trying to steal anyones thunder, he will probably do fine. I just commented that I'll hold my excitement of the hire until he's had a full year in the SEC. Thats much different than a single game against one team. I hope he does field great defenses. But being in the SEC for a full season will give other teams a chance to gameplan against his scheme. We'll see.

Posted by Alphaman
KC, MO
Member since Nov 2013
54 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:38 am to
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What was the final score in that game? Not trying to steal anyones thunder, he will probably do fine. I just commented that I'll hold my excitement of the hire until he's had a full year in the SEC. Thats much different than a single game against one team. I hope he does field great defenses. But being in the SEC for a full season will give other teams a chance to gameplan against his scheme. We'll see.


24-3 was the final. I didn't see the game, but my guess is that depth and superior athletes got them in the 4th quarter.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:39 am to
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24-3 was the final. I didn't see the game, but my guess is that depth and superior athletes got them in the 4th quarter.


That would probably do it. Still not bad for a one game deal and probably less depth and level of players.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 9:41 am
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:59 am to
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24-3 was the final. I didn't see the game, but my guess is that depth and superior athletes got them in the 4th quarter.


That and the fact that the 2 OM touchdown drives in the 4th quarter started on the Memphis 23 and the Memphis 24. Add to that the Memphis offense didn't keep them off the field in the 2nd half:

8 plays punt 2:53
3 plays punt 1:03
3 plays punt 1:16
3 plays punt 1:07
3 plays fumble 0:59
3 plays punt 1:21
6 plays punt 1:28

Total time of possession was like 40 minutes to 20 minutes
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