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re: Coaching Changes Discussion - Chief locked up, what about rest?

Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:03 pm to
247 Shows Mattison was also targeting Malik Jefferson, perhaps they know each other at least a little bit.

Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:16 pm to
I had a thought. Don't fire anyone on the defensive side of the ball, Sumlin isn't going to replace our WR coach, going to make Jeff Banks the new WR coach. Durkin will be Co-DC/ST coach. I believe he has experience coaching special teams.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

I had a thought. Don't fire anyone on the defensive side of the ball, Sumlin isn't going to replace our WR coach, going to make Jeff Banks the new WR coach. Durkin will be Co-DC/ST coach. I believe he has experience coaching special teams.


That is also a thought, but just like we want to keep Anderson to get Jefferson we want Wyatt to get Lodge. This is starting to be like seating people at a wedding.

What are the hard rules with assistants? I mean, is it like the roster where it has to be 85 at a certain date or is it more like at any point you can't go above a certain number?

Because if it is the former and not the latter why not keep both on staff for now and have a LB coaching competition that ends sometime before Spring ball?
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:39 pm to
NCAA Article 11 I believe

1 - head coach
9 - assistant coaches
2 - graduate assistant coaches

those rules do not apply to Strength & Conditioning Coaches, but the SEC just recently placed limitations on how many a team can have.
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:45 pm to
so we have,

Offense
1. Spavital (OC)
2. Anderson (OL)
3. Banks (ST/TE)
4. McKinney (RB)

Defense
5. Hagan (LB)
6. Joseph (DB)
7. Price (DL)
8. Mattison?
9. Durkin?


here is what the "rule" defines as a coach or assistant coach: 11.7.2.1 Exceptions to Number Limits FBS - No individual other than coaches designated to fill the coaching categories set forth in Bylaw 11.7.2 may participate in any manner in the coaching of the intercollegiate team of a member institution during any football game, practice or other organized activity, with the following exceptions
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:46 pm to
simple, we turn one or more into "executive recruiting assistants" like Bama
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:51 pm to
but if they participated in the coaching, practice or other organized team activities, we would be in violation of NCAA bylaws

those executive recruiting assistants do not coach players
Posted by leoj
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:59 pm to
So make banks wr and then durkin s/t?
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:27 pm to
I have not heard a single indication that this is the actual plan, but if we are hiring co-DCs this might be a logical reach
Posted by leoj
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:33 pm to
Yeah total crazy talk. My question is can banks even coach wr?
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:39 pm to
I don't have a clue. Here's his resume, looks like he coached some WRs for the Raiders.

Jeff Banks Resume


Maybe Banks could coach running backs and McKinney could coach receivers
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:54 pm to
Kevin Sumlin - Head Coach

Jake Spavital - Offensive Coordinator/QB
Clarence McKinney - Running Backs
Jeff Banks - Wide Receivers/Tight Ends/ST
ANYONE BUT B.J. ANDERSON - Offensive Line

D.J. Durkin - Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers
Greg Mattison - Defensive Tackles
Terry Price - Defensive Ends
Terry Joseph - Defensive Backs
Mark Hagan - Recruiting and retention?
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 10:41 am
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Yeah total crazy talk. My question is can banks even coach wr?
From what I have heard Sumlin is the real WR coach on the team anyway.
Posted by Asian Sensation
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

From what I have heard Sumlin is the real WR coach on the team anyway.


Not sure if serious? Beaty was/is a damn good coach.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Jake Spavital - Offensive Coordinator/QB



Posted by Asian Sensation
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Jake Spavital - Offensive Coordinator/QB


He was a big part of the Murray and Kirk commitments. I'm holding out for improved playcalling under Sumlin's guidance.
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:39 am to
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This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 8:44 am
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:50 am to
It's for the liberty bowl preview. I don't think it will address the DC
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:48 am to
Scoring D Ranks

2014
Durkin 11 (Florida DC/LB)
Mattision 8 (Michigan DC/DL)

2013
Durkin 6 (Florida DC/LB)
Mattison 32 (Michigan DC/DL)

2012
Durkin 6 (Florida LB/ST)
Mattison 12 (Michigan DC)

2011
Durkin 5 (Florida LB/ST)
Mattison 16 (Michigan DC)

2010
Durkin 10 (Florida LB/ST)
Mattison 3 (Balt Ravens DC/LB)

2009
Durkin 84 (Stanford DE/ST)
Mattision 2 (Balt Ravens DC/LB)

2008
Durkin 73 (Stanford DE/ST)
Mattison 3 (Balt Ravens DC/LB)

2007
Durkin 97 (Stanford DE/ST)
Mattison 39 (Florida DC/DL)

2006
Durkin 35 (Bowling Green LB/ST)
Mattison 10 (Florida DC/DL)

2005
Durkin 62 (Bowling Green DE)
Mattison 7 (Florida DC/DL)
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:55 am to
Yeah, it's not terrible.

Individually, I think either would be an improvement over Snyder. Together, they could create a pretty good situation.

Apparently Durkin is the one who wanted to bring Mattison in, so it does seem like he's willing to play ball so that he can have a chance to prove himself as an elite DC
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