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re: What a bad way to end a good season
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:54 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:54 pm to The Sultan of Swine
... I've been pretty critical of the coaching staff & still believe with every fiber of my being that Chaney should've been fired much earlier this season - hell, I think BA could call a game better - but I really see much more improvement in Bielema & the players than I thought I would, and Smith has basically worked miracles with the D. Yes, I think we absolutely could've/should've won 4 close sec games, including the one today, but looking at the complete shite our program was just 2 years ago & seeing the vast improvement that's been made, I ain't bitchin about 6 Ws, that is for damn sure. Under Johnelle, I had never seen the Razorbacks so lost & pathetic, mentally or physically, & I'm pretty old. I sincerely thought it would take a long while, if ever, to get back to this point considering the depths of the sewer we were in. And I NEVER would've expected it in a new coach's second year. ... I think those close wins in tough conference games will come in the next couple of years when we have truly learned what it means to finish a game ... And particularly when we have a new OC who doesn't honestly give the games away. 
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:56 pm to Jon Ham
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While I agree there have been some coaching deficiencies on offense and special teams, you have to also account for the dramatic improvement we made on defense. Also, while coaching did play a part in some of our losses, there was also just some bad luck that also contributed (Walker fumble in Bama game, Skipper trip against A&M, bad calls against Mizzou).
So my point is, looking at this team as a whole and its record, you have to say we improved from last season and making a bowl game means this was a "good" year.
I agree that we have improved. Especially on defense. Offense is still very meh, but it's probably slightly improved.
But a good season to me isn't relative to the previous season. Meaning, we could go winless for the next 10 years straight, and I wouldn't consider 4 wins on the 11th season to be a good season.
"Good" for me is relative to where I think our program should be on a yearly basis.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:59 pm to Feral
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I see you became a Hog fan in 2010.
Still have my 1994 national championship t-shirt from when I was 5.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:01 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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"Good" for me is relative to where I think our program should be on a yearly basis.
In that case I don't think anyone would disagree with you. No one here is saying 6 wins every year is good.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:05 pm to Jon Ham
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In that case I don't think anyone would disagree with you. No one here is saying 6 wins every year is good.
I'm not saying we should fire 2Bs for not winning 8-9 games this year. But I think it's dangerous for our fanbase to start thinking of 6 wins as good.
Maybe "tolerable" would be a better word for it.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:06 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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Still have my 1994 national championship t-shirt from when I was 5.
That explains it. You're young and stupid.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:06 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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But I think it's dangerous for our fanbase to start thinking of 6 wins as good.
It's good for this year considering the circumstances. That's all anyone is saying.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:09 pm to Stonehog
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That explains it. You're young and stupid.
Maybe so. I did get over the need to pick internet fights with stranger years ago, however.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:12 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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Maybe so. I did get over the need to pick internet fights with stranger years ago, however.
But you still haven't gotten over the need to show your arse on the internet for attention. You've got a lot of growing up to do buddy.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:13 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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I agree that we have improved. Especially on defense. Offense is still very meh, but it's probably slightly improved.
But a good season to me isn't relative to the previous season. Meaning, we could go winless for the next 10 years straight, and I wouldn't consider 4 wins on the 11th season to be a good season.
"Good" for me is relative to where I think our program should be on a yearly basis.
We're still recovering from Petrino's recruiting and JLS. Bert can't fix all of that in two years. He's basically had to build the team up from scratch.
We almost beat MIssouri with a hurt QB, no play makers on offense, and thin depth on defense.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:20 pm to Stonehog
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But you still haven't gotten over the need to show your arse on the internet for attention.
Interesting. How have I done that? Looks to me like I was commenting on the thread and you've been following me around trying to make things personal. But I'm sure you, with all your age and wisdom, will be able to enlighten me.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:23 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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quote: I see you became a Hog fan in 2010. Still have my 1994 national championship t-shirt from when I was 5.
Sure you do.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:27 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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I agree that we have improved. Especially on defense. Offense is still very meh, but it's probably slightly improved.
But a good season to me isn't relative to the previous season. Meaning, we could go winless for the next 10 years straight, and I wouldn't consider 4 wins on the 11th season to be a good season. "Good" for me is relative to where I think our program should be on a yearly basis.
So we're not improved despite winning 3 more games than last year, but A&M is improved despite winning 2 fewer games than last year and 4 fewer than 2012?
Your A&M parallel in this thread looks even dumber now.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:30 pm to Feral
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So we're not improved despite winning 3 more games than last year, but A&M is improved despite winning 2 fewer games than last year and 4 fewer than 2012?
Your A&M parallel in this thread looks even dumber now.
Kids these days.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:30 pm to Feral
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So we're not improved despite winning 3 more games than last year, but A&M is improved despite winning 2 fewer games than last year and 4 fewer than 2012?
Did you read what you just quoted from me?
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I agree that we have improved.
And where did I say A&M improved?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:35 pm to The Sultan of Swine
You lauded praise on them for winning 7 games, which is insanely moronic.
Bert sucks for winning 6 in year 2 with no depth, but everything's peachy at A&M for Sumlin in year 3 despite having a worse record every year by 2 games?
You've got the lulz
Bert sucks for winning 6 in year 2 with no depth, but everything's peachy at A&M for Sumlin in year 3 despite having a worse record every year by 2 games?
You've got the lulz
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:35 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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But I think it's dangerous for our fanbase to start thinking of 6 wins as good.
I think 6 wins is excellent for this year, particularly when we came so very close to wins in 3 or 4 big conference games & pulled off back to back shutouts in our 2 sec wins - something no one else did. We were never blown out in any of our losses. Looking at everything, not just the record, this season has been excellent, all things considered. ... I hope & expect next year to be better. I expect there to be improvement each season. I don't think anyone is saying staying stagnant at 6 wins, season after season, is acceptable, but for this one, it's pretty damn good.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:36 pm to Arkla Missy
agb?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:39 pm to Feral
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but everything's peachy at A&M for Sumlin in year 3 despite having a worse record every year by 2 games?
Where did I say that? I specifically said they have a horrible team. My point was that it wouldn't have been that difficult to win 8 games this year.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:46 pm to Arkla Missy
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think 6 wins is excellent for this year, particularly when we came so very close to wins in 3 or 4 big conference games & pulled off back to back shutouts in our 2 sec wins - something no one else did. We were never blown out in any of our losses. Looking at everything, not just the record, this season has been excellent, all things considered. ... I hope & expect next year to be better. I expect there to be improvement each season. I don't think anyone is saying staying stagnant at 6 wins, season after season, is acceptable, but for this one, it's pretty damn good.
I don't have much of a problem with this. Same with what Jon Ham was saying. I still wouldn't go as far as to call it good, but I can see where you're coming from.
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