#5 team can't bitch

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If you are #5 on Dec 8 then tough shite. Last year you wouldn't have been even close. So suck on it. If Bama doesn't win out from the Ole Miss game we don't get in. I can live with that. Unfortunately for Miss St if we beat AU you don't win the SEC and even though I think you are the #2 team in the country the Committee doesn't think like I do. They will probably give it to TCU,Bailor,or Ohio State for winning their CC.

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Of course they can

Who is #4 is even mor subjective than who is #2.
Best answer is 8 team playoff

Power 5 champs, 3 at larges.

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Agreed. Just give it that exact caveat. Honestly I wouldn't care if it was a 8-5 conference champ. I'd want them in the playoff because of the three at larges. However I don't believe the at-larges should be placed 6-8. I think that's where the committee can decide who gets a better seed. Leave their precious subjectivity.

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Agree - Power 5 champs + 3 at larges and once you have your field set you rank all 8 the same way we rank them now.

I wouldn't mind some sort of trigger that is a Power 5 champ is worse than 9-3 that they can be replaced by an 11-1 or 12-0 non-Power 5 champ (say Marshall this year or Boise in past years).

Disagree.

IF we had a system where there was a reasonably consistent conference strength, and IF all the conference champs got in, I would agree.

As soon as you add the subjectivity of taking only 4 out of 5 power conference champs (plus ND), you can't play the "you had your chance" card. MSU lost to us on OUR field. We lost to Ole Miss on THEIR field. One loss to a very good team can mean everything...I'm not willing to say MSU should sit because they didn't win their conference, while other teams played NOBODY in conference (FSU, and to a lesser extent tOSU), and other teams didn't even have a championship game - so little tiebreaker scenarios determine which team should get to play for the title?

phhht.

An 8-team playoff will devalue the regular season. Sure, more games between teams in the 10-20 range will become important, but games between highly ranked teams (e.g., #3 Auburn vs #4 Ole Miss a few weeks ago) will become less critical. And a conference champ with 3 or more losses (or 2 losses in a year where there are a lot of 1-loss teams) just doesn't deserve a shot at the NC.

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Are yall serious you know #9 would bitch just as loud as #5.

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I don't know. You're ranked #9, at 8 and 7 are conference champs, so clearly you're an at large team and the #6 team is an at large team. People will always bitch, but i'm less inclined to give it any consideration if you're trying to convince me you're 3 spots better (obviously it wouldn't always work out this way but even if it only happened once, that's one less year of bitching).

frick this 4-team playoff shite. I'd love to see an 8-game playoff with some games at home instead of at former BCS bowl sites. Could you imagine the atmosphere at home for a playoff game?

I know this guy that goes by Fireman17 and I think the two of you would get along great ... Peas and carrots.

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If you are #5 on Dec 8 then tough shite. Last year you wouldn't have been even close

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5 major playoff conferences and only 4 spots...it was doomed to fail from the beginning.

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3 loss or better Power 5 champs all others at large.

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Sounds like we created CFP v2.0. Let's send it off to the ADs for approval.