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Who Else Freaking LOVES This Committee?

Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:01 am
Given how both my teams are so-so so far, I think my favorite thing about the entire football season this year is the committee.

They are trolling the Big 12 HARD. "At this point the committee doesn't feel Baylor and TCU's body of work is comparable enough that (head-to-head) would kick in." That is the best "YOUR ARE BAYLOR!!!" I think I have ever heard.

And OMG this recent ranking has lead to a melt across the many Big 12 forums. I posted some highlights in this thread:

LINK

The one that made my fall out of my chair was the last one, from a stereotypical Baylor fan:

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At this point, I'd be for suing ...don't we have anti trust laws or something like that that prevent this stuff? The nation needs to DEMAND this system be scrapped and that the results on the field matter instead of the ratings ESecPN can get from desired pairings. This system must be changed - it is the most unAmerican thing I've ever seen in sports. Disgusting.


If the Big 12 Champion gets left out of the first playoffs but two SEC teams make it then all is right in the world.
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:04 am to
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At this point, I'd be for suing

Of course they would - that's what Baylor does. #BaylorBold bitches
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55220 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:05 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:08 am to
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Of course they would - that's what Baylor does.


It really makes me wonder.

When I grew up, and I am sure many of yall have the same story, my parents were very insistent that I learned the lesson that "life isn't fair." I think this committee is an exercise in that philosophy.

But I have to wonder- do Baylor parents send a different message to their kids? Something like "Life isn't fair, so that is why you need a judge to make it fair."
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:15 am to
I would rather not see any rematches, but you have to agree that Miss St. is a better team than Baylor. Miss St. has a nail biter loss to the #1 team. Baylor lost by 2 TD's to an unranked team. What's not to understand?

ETA: Now it's a conspiracy that they lost to WVU! LINK
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 10:17 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:19 am to
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I would rather not see any rematches, but you have to agree that Miss St. is a better team than Baylor.


Sure, but is Miss State a better team than TCU?

I am not arguing for them, just saying. You know me, I can't not Game of Thrones college football. The best case is the Big 12 gets left out, even if that is the most egregious thing even done in college football. We want Baylor and TCU to stay marginalized.

Especially TCU, it might get their coach to finally see that his program has a ceiling. I feel Briles is going to be around for a while, but a Michigan could steal a Patterson.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:19 am to
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ETA: Now it's a conspiracy that they lost to WVU!


Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:21 am to
TCU getting left out would be less understandable since they had a 3 point loss to a top 10 team...but then you go to why would they take TCU over Baylor who beat them? It really might be the lack of a championship game screws them in the end.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50213 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:29 am to
I think they're doing a nice job. Look at the resume alone and make an order. Ignore everything else.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55220 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:31 am to
Correct, if they get left out the big 12 will add two teams right away. Doesn't matter which teams, they will take whoever they can get
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:33 am to
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It really might be the lack of a championship game screws them in the end.


Which is great, because that pushes them to add some non-Power 5 teams to get back to 12. That is best case for us because it:

1. Shows how weak the Big 12 is if all open spots got replaced with downgrades. It will be a slight media perception thing that will ensure that the modern Big 12 never gets the respect the old version got.

2. Cuts the money each Big 12 team gets, which increases the gap between them and us. Maybe we can even move ahead of Texas+LHN when the SEC Network money hits.

3. Adds another party or two to the lawsuit when Texas tries to ditch all this after the GOR period.

4. Maybe lengthens the GOR to entice someone to sign on.

5. Makes the Big 12 geography even MORE unwieldy as no good expansion options are near their footprint.

I love it all, bring it on.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:33 am to
I'm loving how they're seeing through the big12's weakass bullshite.
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:50 am to
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I'm loving how they're seeing through the big12's weakass bullshite.


The only way this could get better is if these four hold and both sec teams are on opposite sides of the bracket and end up playing for the championship. The country wide melt would be amazing.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:59 am to
Baylor or TCU didn't play a mid-tier SECW team but that is the entire difference between them and KSU (they all have 1 conference loss). And right now, they are (or will be) getting more credit for beating KSU than anyone is for beating Auburn, despite the fact that the objective data says Auburn > KSU. I don't know where TCU or Baylor should be ranked. Their silo is objectively very weak this year and they didn't really play anyone out of silo. But every win in silo KSU has or loss Auburn has, hurts their case.

This should teach conferences a lesson - you have to play good games out of silo and you need to win them. The Big 12 didn't totally duck. They just lost them all. They've tried to argue the case that they are close losses but honestly, at a certain point, someone needs to win some games on the field if you want to be given credit. And if your conference mates won't do it, you better not lose (see State, Florida).

Finally if this lasts for any period of time (it's year 3 of this in the Big 12 and about year 10 in the ACC), you will not be given the benefit of the doubt. You better take the schedule in your own hands and go play a contender.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:02 am to
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if these four hold and both sec teams are on opposite sides of the bracket and end up playing for the championship. The country wide melt would be amazing.



The caterwauling across the land would be glorious
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79980 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:03 am to
Baylor is being punished for Briles' comments regarding nonconference scheduling.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:04 am to
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Look at the resume alone and make an order

honestly they aren't though. There's a bit of anti-SEC bias. On objective data alone, LSU > Wisky. There is zero conflicting data in that case.

But LSU had to play Bama, MSU, OM, Auburn, as well as Wisky. Because they played a tougher schedule, they have more losses, but head to head LSU was better. And no team on Wisky's schedule even beat a team on LSU's schedule. The exact same as Auburn and KSU. They are ranked like they are to keep from ruffling feathers even though it's clearly illogical.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55220 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:07 am to
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2. Cuts the money each Big 12 team gets



This would be hilarious because Fox will not pay more if they add u of h and LaTech
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:10 am to
not sure why you think this would lead to expansion. They aren't being hurt by only being 10 teams. They are hurt because they appear to have a bunch of shitty teams.

Expansion wouldn't fix (or even address) that problem at all. They need to beef up the OOC schedule and win some games.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55220 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:12 am to
The point was that expansion would give them a championship game. Which would be one more game against a ranked team at the very end of the season.
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