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re: Drew Butler on 680 now

Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:17 pm to
Excuse me, 3 seasons ago...when he was a freshman at UGA.

Possibly lied, possibly came clean...doesn't change the fact that he broke the rules. I don't have an agenda, just an opinion and that is that he screwed his team, his coaches, his school and his fans.

I never said I was right, I'm just arguing my opinion just like you are. But because your opinion doesn't hold water, you resort to calling me a-hole, so...
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

People who always assume the worst/negative and keep arguing like they're right when they don't actually know a thing,


What's worse are people that defend unethical behavior, kinda like yourself.

Posted by SED
Athens, Ga
Member since Sep 2014
305 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:37 pm to
There are a few people in this thread who need to be bashed over the head with a heavy club 30 or 40 times and left bleeding in the moonlight.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

There are a few people in this thread who need to be bashed over the head with a heavy club 30 or 40 times and left bleeding in the moonlight.


Word to the wise....

Don't bring a club to a gun fight.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20303 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Drew believes he should be thrown off the team.

Drew needs to STFU
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42471 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

What's worse are people that defend unethical behavior, kinda like yourself.


I don't think that many people are defending the unethical behavior. I think everyone knows he deserves to be suspended, even though the NCAA rules are frustrating (one could argue unethical). I will defend Todd as a human being though when people who are supposedly Dawg fans start to shite all over him. When he got suspended he easily could have quit on the team, but he's been practicing, called Chubb before the Mizzou game to give him some motivation and has still attempted to be a team leader. It's amazing how pissed we get at him like he cost us something, instead of remembering how he basically won us the Clemson and Tennessee games. I also guarantee you he's much more frustrated he's not playing than we are.
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
944 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:51 pm to
For what it's worth, I don't consider what Gurley did to be unethical.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

For what it's worth, I don't consider what Gurley did to be unethical.



The NCAA doesn't care what you think. Their sandbox. Their rules.
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
944 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

The NCAA doesn't care what you think. Their sandbox. Their rules.


I acknowledge that. You are the one who said it was unethical, not the NCAA. They set the rule, but they do not define ethics.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:02 pm to
unethical
[uhn-eth-i-kuh l]
adjective
1.
lacking moral principles; unwilling to adhere to proper rules of conduct.
2.
not in accord with the standards of a profession


Look at #2.

And actually the NCAA does "define" it's own standard of "ethics."
LINK
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
944 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:07 pm to
He pulled the dictionary on me

I do not define his behavior as unethical according to the traditional definition of the word that we all use not the BS term that you pulled out of your arse, aka you had to look up online to figure out.

I don't care what the NCAA puts in their code of ethics. A violation of their code of ethics is not, by definition, unethical for humanity.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4979 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

What's worse are people that defend unethical behavior, kinda like yourself.



So. Every single action in your life has been ethically motivated and had the greater good as the intended outcome? Not one selfishly motivated action in all your years on earth? No actions that could be said to be ethically questionable?

Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

He pulled the dictionary on me


Yep, you lost.

quote:

I don't care what the NCAA puts in their code of ethics. A violation of their code of ethics is not, by definition, unethical for humanity.


But clearly you are a die hard loser.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Possibly lied, possibly came clean...doesn't change the fact that he broke the rules. I don't have an agenda, just an opinion and that is that he screwed his team, his coaches, his school and his fans. I never said I was right, I'm just arguing my opinion just like you are. But because your opinion doesn't hold water, you resort to calling me a-hole, so...

How does my opinion "not old water"??

My opinion is you don't kick a kid off the team for his first offense, and a minor one at that by all possible comparisons.

Again, he didn't rape anyone or steal or do drugs or get a new car or get paid $180 grand, he got $3,000 for signing autographs.

It's the only rule, that we are all aware of, that he's ever broken. And it's such a poorly considered rule that everyone in existence knows it's not going to even be a rule soon.

Your "opinion" is that the punishment for a minor first offense is to kick a kid off the team. And you think MY opinion doesn't hold water?

Yeah, you're an a-hole alright.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:31 pm to
We aren't arguing about ethics and how they apply to humanity. We are talking about ethics and how they apply to college athletics. Receiving money for your autograph is an ethics violation per the NCAA.

Practicing medicine without a license is unethical. Fixing grades as a college professor is unethical. Not reporting suspected child abuse as a mandated reporter is unethical. Fixing a friend's speeding ticket as a police officer is unethical. None of these things effect humanity as a whole but they are unethical behavior. No different than Todd Gurley. He was bound by a specific code of conduct/ethics and he didn't follow it. Just like you were bound to these while you were a student in Athens.

LINK

But you go ahead and call Webster and tell them your definition of ethics.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

What's worse are people that defend unethical behavior, kinda like yourself.

Hold on a second, Mr. Jesus of Nazareth, unsinned stone-thrower extraordinaire....

I was not "defending" or condoning TG's actions. I only called a bunch of stupid frickers who think he should be kicked off the team for those actions, stupid frickers.

Now get off your high horse and learn how to fricking read and comprehend, you dumb shite.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:42 pm to
You think that because it's a stupid rule and it's going to be abolished that he shouldn't be punished at all. Stupid or not, it's still a rule.

1st offense, that just happened to last his whole UGA career. He's been breaking the same rule for 3 seasons.

You sound like one of those backward arse liberal punks. I'd rather be an a-hole.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6998 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:43 pm to
Drew Butler is a putz which is almost as bad as being a punter. Butler's opinion isn't worth a warm bucket of snot.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Practicing medicine without a license is unethical. Fixing grades as a college professor is unethical. Not reporting suspected child abuse as a mandated reporter is unethical. Fixing a friend's speeding ticket as a police officer is unethical. None of these things effect humanity as a whole but they are unethical behavior. No different than Todd Gurley. He was bound by a specific code of conduct/ethics and he didn't follow it. Just like you were bound to these while you were a student in Athens.

Whoa, whoa, whoa........

There are many different levels in the realm of rule breaking and "ethics violations" there bub. And then there are corresponding levels of reasonable punishment that fit each crime.

Murder, robbing a bank, running a red light, stealing a pack of chewing gum, smoking pot, and signing you name on a picture.

Now rank those in order of severity of punishment. Because they are all different and have different levels of punishment.

Guess what, signing your name on a picture is at the bottom. And the one right in front of it, smoking pot, doesn't even come close to getting you kicked off a team on your very first offense.

But go ahead. Keep quoting retarded definitions for us like that some how makes your crusade to kick him off the team any less moronic.
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