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re: Ole Miss and State's Staying Power

Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:51 pm to
He's doing it?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:53 pm to
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He will end up like Fran. You can't recruit year end and year out at Ole Miss. I'm sorry man.

Like I said. You don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:54 pm to
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He's doing it?

I think we're being trolled. I hope we are at least because surely to goodness nobody is THAT stupid.
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
8161 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:55 pm to
He went back to cornering the stock market; based on history.
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6235 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:56 pm to
One of our freshman DEs Marquis Haynes is about to break Clowney's freshman sack record.. We are pretty deep on our D line. JUCO transfer Tee Shepard could have started in our secondary this season until he got hurt preseason. Our defense is going to be stacked again next year.

Our offense will depend on the new QB obviously. We are still going to be stacked in skill positions. O line will be older and more experienced *hopefully*.

Posted by GoldenReb
Member since Sep 2013
731 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:02 pm to
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Ole Miss is Freeze's dream job






He will end up like Fran. You can't recruit year end and year out at Ole Miss. I'm sorry man.



You just proved you have no idea what you are talking about by at that statement. It is pretty common knowledge that Ole Miss is Freeze's dream job.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:03 pm to
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It is pretty common knowledge that Ole Miss is Freeze's dream job.

Unless you're a poster on a certain message board that I shall not name. According to them Freeze's real dream job is Georgia. I shite you not.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 5:03 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41860 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:05 pm to
Neither do
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:14 pm to
Schedules play a part in any teams success and both Mississippi schools have benefitted from a pretty favorable schedule up until now. State's schedule is about to get a lot more difficult with trips to Ole Miss and Alabama. Ole Miss' schedule will remain pretty favorable the rest of this year, but t will flip next year with games at Alabama, Auburn, and State
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted by NoOneIsTheBear
Member since Dec 2013
25 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:27 pm to
Ole Miss played 66 players vs Bama
Bama used 52 players vs Ole Miss
Posted by Stan Gable
Memphis
Member since Oct 2014
584 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:58 pm to
Excuse me, Dr Jones and I are trying to have a debate here. I think he already stated your exact point. Is Ole Miss Hughs dream job, I don't really know. Nor do I care. I highly doubt it because Ole Miss doesn't have the resources to "make dreams come true."

Let me break it down. The type of program Ole Miss fans dream of will take decades and decades of winning/money/upgrades. There are so many upgrades the town, campus, stadium, funds, etc that will have to take place to make that happen. Freeze hasn't won anything at this point. If it does happen you want be alive to see it. What, you think some little program in a sleepy Mississippi town is going to start pounding out natties year after year with that tiny stadium and their tiny revenue?? Get fricking real. Get an Xbox if you want to build a dynasty in Oxford.
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4938 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:59 pm to
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In the end game, Ole Miss has the best chance to sit with Alabama, LSU and Auburn in the west.


Umm... no. The school in Texas does.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:04 pm to
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Didn't y'all lose a coach to A&M?


Posted by Stan Gable
Memphis
Member since Oct 2014
584 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:08 pm to
He's been there since 2012. Let's talk in another 6 years.

Ole Miss has zero titles under Freeze. I wouldn't even brag if Ole Miss won 2 Natties under freeze in the next 10 years. It takes years and years of winning. You're not there.
Posted by SECRantLurker
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2013
148 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:09 pm to
I'd say Ole Miss and that State will fall off. That 2013 recruiting class will turn out to be a huge launchpad for Ole Miss. If you follow recruiting, you'll see that current recruits view some of those guys as rockstars and want to play with them. And especially now that Freeze has shown he can actually coach and that you can win at OM and potentially win it all, there is no longer that detraction. That sort of thing just snowballs and recruits keep piling up.

As for State, I'm good friends with some guys that know some of their previous staff members. Word from them is that there was some under the table type stuff going on in the Strength and Conditioning program. There's a reason they say Mullen has been able to develop his 2 and 3 stars in to world beaters after 4-5 years in the program. Some of the year to year pictures and weight changes on those guys have been dramatic. This began coming to light and they had to "run off" the old S&C coach.

Don't believe me? There's a reason that the coach all of a sudden left an SEC program and took the same job at UConn and this had nothing to do with Starkville being a crappy town.

So, OM = yes. State = No, this just happens to be a perfect storm with them because of the 4th and 5th year seniors plus a really good QB but they no longer have the "magic cocktail" to keep producing world beaters.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48704 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:09 pm to
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I wouldn't even brag if Ole Miss won 2 Natties under freeze in the next 10 years.

You know what? frick you and every shitty opinion you'll ever have going forward.
Posted by FDOM
Member since Oct 2014
422 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:09 pm to
Actually, we have recruited quit well...its why we are better now. Lots of it has to do with the QB position. Thats why you see a drop off with Alabama....they are hurting at QB imho
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:13 pm to
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Your program lacks the funds and the resources to accomplish this. The season you're having now is all you can hope for


The fact that you're saying this tells me you have absolutely NO IDEA of what you're talking about concerning Ole Miss. I can assure we do have the funds and resources to compete. Hell, we have several donors that I know of that can basically write a blank check for anything we really need. Please tell me EXACTLY what funds we don't have to accomplish what???

Seriously, how old are you?
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48704 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:17 pm to
Stan just got here but it's already becoming apparent he's just an idiot troll from AL.com. Ignore him. Life is better that way.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:21 pm to
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Excuse me, Dr Jones and I are trying to have a debate here. I think he already stated your exact point. Is Ole Miss Hughs dream job, I don't really know. Nor do I care. I highly doubt it because Ole Miss doesn't have the resources to "make dreams come true."

Let me break it down. The type of program Ole Miss fans dream of will take decades and decades of winning/money/upgrades. There are so many upgrades the town, campus, stadium, funds, etc that will have to take place to make that happen. Freeze hasn't won anything at this point. If it does happen you want be alive to see it. What, you think some little program in a sleepy Mississippi town is going to start pounding out natties year after year with that tiny stadium and their tiny revenue?? Get fricking real. Get an Xbox if you want to build a dynasty in Oxford.

You are pretty stupid. Florida is considered to have some of the worst facilities in the league. Yet they have until recently been considered a contender. OM and States are considered much better. Not even close. I have a feeling you're the type of Bammer that thinks talks home games are played in Birmingham.

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