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Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:25 am to jafo
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:25 am to jafo
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but what is this infatuation with Printz?
for one thing he's young and has about the same time left to play as Mauk, where Berk is about done.
He also looked better in preseason, at least as good as Berk, and better than Mauk. Of all the QBs he has the best throwing motion and is taller and is more of a 'stand in the pocket' and read the field QB.
I guess the point is if Printz can come in and have a good series or 3, move the ball down the field and give the D a break, it might make the difference in winning and losing. Isn't that more fair to the rest of the team than just sticking with Mauk because "that's what I want to do"?
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:55 pm to Jagd Tiger
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for one thing he's young and has about the same time left to play as Mauk, where Berk is about done
What does this have to do with performance on the field? Just because he has "about" the same time left as MM, doesn't mean he has anything more to offer. Just because Berk has less time doesn't mean he doesn't have more to offer.
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He also looked better in preseason, at least as good as Berk, and better than Mauk. Of all the QBs he has the best throwing motion and is taller and is more of a 'stand in the pocket' and read the field QB.
Which contradicts the style of QB that can function in the spread offense. Those are usually dual threat QB's who can also effectively run the ball. Not saying Printz can't run, he is not a better rushing QB than Berk. Printz is more like Mauk where Berk is more towards a Franklin.
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I guess the point is if Printz can come in and have a good series or 3, move the ball down the field and give the D a break, it might make the difference in winning and losing. Isn't that more fair to the rest of the team than just sticking with Mauk because "that's what I want to do"?
It would if Mauk was the only problem with the offense. He is not, and if he was there is no guarantee Printz would do any better anyways because of it. If he was, he would be starting and Mauk would be sitting. This all goes deeper than Mauk. There are other things at play besides the lack of play by Mauk. Maybe this is why GP has decided to stay with Mauk. Maybe, he see's there are other problems and doesn't want to put Printz in a no win situation where it could shake what little confidence he has. That's why I see Berk as the better replacement because he offers something the other two can't deliver. He can run with authority. You have to start somewhere to get the offense rolling. Give the kid (Berk) a chance, he's earned it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:21 pm to jafo
I'm not sure what you think you've been watching but Mizzou hasn't had a dual threat QB since Brad Smith.
The other problems with the offense have more to do with coaching, and lack of any real imagination at play design.
I wouldn't be against Berk getting playing time if he was actually the best choice, but the coaching staff seems to think Printz is better and he probably is.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:54 am to Jagd Tiger
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I'm not sure what you think you've been watching but Mizzou hasn't had a dual threat QB since Brad Smith.
What was Franklin? He was no Tom Brady. Chase Daniel either. Both were dual threat QB's who were effective running the ball. Chase happened to be the better passer than Franklin. Berk is another. Blaine was more a pocket passer, as is MM. MM just doesn't seem to have the vision required to stand in the pocket and deliver throws. Not always his fault.
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The other problems with the offense have more to do with coaching, and lack of any real imagination at play design.
I won't disagree with your point as far as coaching being part of the problem. As far as play design, there may be issues there where designing more creative plays may be beyond some of these players talent level. That is speculation on my part. They lost thier down field threat when DGB was thrown out of the program. Murphy is a playmaker and he is fast but he doesn't share the qualities of a top tier wide out.
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I wouldn't be against Berk getting playing time if he was actually the best choice, but the coaching staff seems to think Printz is better and he probably is.
That's what I don't get. Berks numbers were slightly better in spring practices, yet he fell behind a Freshman QB Printz. Is this another bad decision by the staff or is there legit reasons there to warrant that decision? You really can't say "probably is" without putting Berk and Printz in there for a couple games.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:35 am to Stlox
In my view, the line play has been spotty all year, though they are slightly better than when the year started. With what we had coming back, I thought I line would be the strength of the offense.
It's clear to me that our wide receivers are not getting open consistently and helping the quarterback as much as they could, and its also clear to me that opposing coaches have broken down film on our wides and have neutralized them. Our tight ends aren't getting open consistently either. I'm not happy having them in the slot. They don't have any speed and Mauk's touch isn't good enough to get them the ball high where they can catch it against shorter linebackers.
Mauk has the talent, but he's playing scared with no rhythm whatsoever. Teams have identified his tendencies and are defending against them effectively. When Mauk has a pocket but the DE's crash, all he should do is step up, but he almost never does, which destroys accuracy and power in his throws. Mauk is a head case right now and doesn't feel confident with any part of his game.
I am in favor of the backup getting a series each game in the first half and I felt this way before the season started. How many starting quarterbacks in the SEC make it through the season without missing at least a few series? Not many. Nothing gets a quarterback ready like game-speed conditions ina real game. I'd be okay with either Berk or Printz coming in for that series. I haven't seen practices, but if both are truly equal, I'd go with the guy who has starting experience in the SEC.
It's clear to me that our wide receivers are not getting open consistently and helping the quarterback as much as they could, and its also clear to me that opposing coaches have broken down film on our wides and have neutralized them. Our tight ends aren't getting open consistently either. I'm not happy having them in the slot. They don't have any speed and Mauk's touch isn't good enough to get them the ball high where they can catch it against shorter linebackers.
Mauk has the talent, but he's playing scared with no rhythm whatsoever. Teams have identified his tendencies and are defending against them effectively. When Mauk has a pocket but the DE's crash, all he should do is step up, but he almost never does, which destroys accuracy and power in his throws. Mauk is a head case right now and doesn't feel confident with any part of his game.
I am in favor of the backup getting a series each game in the first half and I felt this way before the season started. How many starting quarterbacks in the SEC make it through the season without missing at least a few series? Not many. Nothing gets a quarterback ready like game-speed conditions ina real game. I'd be okay with either Berk or Printz coming in for that series. I haven't seen practices, but if both are truly equal, I'd go with the guy who has starting experience in the SEC.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:17 am to jafo
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What was Franklin?
the first of a string of MU QB that won't play in the NFL. Just because you can put your head down and barrel through the line doesn't make you a dual threat.
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They lost thier down field threat when DGB was thrown out of the program.
You might want to go back and rewatch the first few games of the year, when Mauk lived on throwing deep.
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Is this another bad decision by the staff or is there legit reasons there to warrant that decision? You really can't say "probably is" without putting Berk and Printz in there for a couple games.
Well there isn't any shortage of bad decisions by the staff but having watched both Berks and Printz, I can say that one looks like a starting D1 QB and the other doesn't.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:47 pm to Jagd Tiger
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the first of a string of MU QB that won't play in the NFL. Just because you can put your head down and barrel through the line doesn't make you a dual threat.
Sure it does. What do you think a dual threat QB is?
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You might want to go back and rewatch the first few games of the year, when Mauk lived on throwing deep.
DGB is gone, that's a big hole in your wide out corp. Those early games were against very soft defenses with below average SEC talent. How many deep balls have you seen completed since conference play started? A few, but not many. The deep threat just is not there right now. Hence stacking the box.
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Well there isn't any shortage of bad decisions by the staff but having watched both Berks and Printz, I can say that one looks like a starting D1 QB and the other doesn't.
What little time Printz has played, I haven't been real impressed. Mostly mop up at times. I have watched Berk win games. He has also lost games, but what QB hasn't? Berk has more experience and is more a dual threat QB than Printz. I don't even think I have seen Printz actually run. Hand off and a few out passes. I did see him play before he made it to Mizzou. He looked good. But that was HS talent he was throwing on. Berk is a bull running the ball. He also has a gun for an arm and can make the intermediate throws as well as down the field passes. I think MM is still a viable QB. This coaching staff needs to help him succeed.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:30 pm to jafo
Printz has only thrown one pass this year and I believe it was a short little dump off screen in the middle of the field that was dropped. He's 0 for 1 on the year. It's impossible to say, but if I had to guess, Printz is a better QB (not a dual threat like Berk and Mauk) but Berk has the advantage of experience and maturity. I don't really care which one, but if this week starts off as ugly as last week, I really hope one or the other gets a series or two.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 6:43 am to reedus23
If we're going to see someone else, sources close to the program say it will be Printz. And by "sources close to the program," I mean my cousin.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 8:01 am to the808bass
How close to the program is your cousin? Lol
Posted on 10/23/14 at 8:29 am to Jagd Tiger
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but what is this infatuation with Printz?
He's the backup QB; easily the most popular position in the history of sports.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:24 am to Wtodd
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but what is this infatuation with Printz?
He's the backup QB
sort of like Mauk is just last years backup QB and Printz, for some reason, passed up Berk who has 3 years in the program, for the #2 job. In the history of sports has the backup QB never been worth a look?
Well we do know if the game is safely put away, Pinkel will bring in Printz to hand off 3 times before it's time to punt.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:48 pm to semotruman
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How close to the program is your cousin? Lol
He knows a guy.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:20 pm to the808bass
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He knows a guy.
And I bet that guy knows a guy who...
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:13 pm to reedus23
Posted on 10/23/14 at 5:45 pm to reedus23
I have relegated to the opinion that MM is less a dual threat QB than he is a pocket/scrambling style QB (Fran Tarkenton). Maybe, they could platoon MM with Berk like they did with MM and Franklin last year. Might take a little pressure off MM.
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