re: Someone made an interesting point on Texags...

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Do you think Saban, Stoops, Fisher, Meyer, etc. ever lose 59-0?

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With the schedule Fisher and Meyer play, no

If either played in the SEC right now, probably.

Saban, no

Stopps (the dirt burglar?), don't care

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I can definitely agree with that. The stat that the CBS announcers kept bringing up was how we have failed to suitably replace the percentage of rushing yards for which JFF accounted. The staff put little emphasis on developing a rushing attack (despite our embarrassment of riches in terms of talent at RB), and of course Kenny Hill is nowhere near the scramble threat that Manziel was. That makes defending our offense so much more elementary it's not even funny. JFF definitely covered up some glaring holes in our scheme, and instead of working diligently to fix said holes while he was still here, it appears we just let the status quo ride, and now we've been exposed. That's deplorable.

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This.

We can talk "culture" all day, but the fact will always remain that we loved "swaggerculture"... until we didn't.

Three big glaring issues exist at the moment from my perspective:

1. There is a locker room cancer. Some personal event, series of personal events, and/or persons have clearly fractured the locker room. Many premium type folks coming out and getting the ban hammer for saying they've been told the team hates Kenny. There must have been some big arguments/ falling out.

2. We don't have a QB. For whatever reason Kenny has regressed into being unable to throw past 10 yards. Because of that, the opposing defenses have been able to cheat up and take away the short game. Nothing has been done to change the scheme. The strong implication is that, unless Sumlin has a stud QB, his system, HE as a coach, can't win.

3. Johnny made the offense work by BEING the running game. We were two dimensional, and it kept defenses honest, but the second dimension was ONE GUY. In the offseason, instead of recognizing this and working on a scheme to replace that production with our stable of highly recruited running backs, the staff did less than nothing - this season our line is incapable of run-blocking, our backs get no yards, and our lethargic QB looks like a joke when he occasionally "scrambles".

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But he will never win a title at this school.

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I think that is a little too violent of a swing in the other direction.

Fact is, only thing we know is this season is a wash. Let Kyler compete for the starting job next season and reboot.

I know you want to melt, but the honest truth is that the dominos didn't fall on us yesterday. Silver linings:

-Our main recruiting rival in the state barely beat a bad ISU team. Also they are recruiting Florida hard, as if almost admitting we locked them out this year.

-Our recruiting class is committed to coming in together and making a difference (aka I feel this won't lead to a rash of decommitments)

-The Big 12 (our competition for exposure in the state) is eating itself alive. OU just ruined its chance to recruit better than us the next two years, Baylor lost their shot to be the next Miami, and KSU (aka the team that threatens us the LEAST for recruiting) looks like a lock to win the league.

-We learn Kenny isn't the answer long-term

-We learned that our coaching staff needs a reshuffle, which I am glad is happening BEFORE we bring in another monster class (well maybe not RIGHT before, maybe we need to do that screw over thing when we fire some folks the week after NSD)

-We got the Ole Miss and Miss St losses out of the way this year all at once.

-We are still undefeated against Arky in the SEC era

-The SEC might get two teams in the playoff, which will continue to give us that artificial recruiting boost

Keep saying the word "melt" like no one else has anything to say.

His melt comment was a carryover from a rant thread where I asked if I could melt in peace.

Re-reading your post in a state of near sobriety, I think you may have slightly misconstrued my use of "culture." I'm not talking about thuggishness or anything particularly unseemly. I was around for the late Wrecking Crew days and, frankly, we could use some thugs like them right now.

I was referring more to the corporate concept of culture, the kind of standards people set for one another, and how people hold each other accountable.

It's a little nebulous, I know. But I'm not close enough to the situation to have any idea why we're not seeing team leaders step up. I'm on the verge of going Old Man and writing it off as "generational."

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There weren't any thugs on the late-90's Wrecking Crew (1996-2002), just great solid fundamental players who had great instinct.

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Oh look, another Rich Coady apologist.

Knowing who your upperclassmen in the band were, I'm sure there's a sense of humor in there somewhere.

To be honest, I don't really like Kenny Hill and the way he smiled during the Mississippi game really pissed me off. I don't need this rumor to be true or false in order to determine that he is undisciplined or fat, because those are facts.

But what I'm not going to do is believe a rumor that conveniently popped out on message boards after a massive loss. Why did it come out only after the loss and not on Thursday or Friday morning? It just seems too much of a coincidence that this happened on Thursday and came out on Saturday with several people (several message boards) claiming to have seen it....but only after we lost. It reeks of that old fish pond manager TA joke of people wanting to be on "the know".