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Mason... King of the check down

Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:42 pm
Posted by DAWGMATA
ATL
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:42 pm
8 games as a starter and he still hasn't proven he can throw the ball down field... Will he ever??
Posted by GDawg1
Member since Mar 2014
935 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:47 pm to
Stahp
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9365 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:53 pm to
Richt appeared a bit frustrated after the Mizz game when he commented something like "we still didn't manage to scare anybody with our down field passing".
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7776 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:06 pm to
Check-downs equal first downs, ball possession, and a rested defense. I'll take it.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:09 pm to
But.......but we had the ball for over 42 minutes
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:10 pm to
I did get the feeling in the Mizzou game that once Bobo realized we could keep Mizzou off balance with the short passes and the run game, there was no reason to go away from it.

I was getting really worried early on when they keyed in on Chubb every play and we still couldn't get the passing game going.

I will say that Mason handled it well though and made some nice 3rd down conversions spreading the ball around. And that TD to Bennett was beautiful.

Basically, no Mason doesn't have Murray or Staffords arm strength but I actually think he's doing enough to get us by this year so far. We haven't lost a game because of him yet (and I realize that's not the best standard). Hopefully the Mizzou game got his confidence going, I know multiple players commented on his leadership.
Posted by DAWGMATA
ATL
Member since Jul 2014
13 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:18 pm to
Mason handled it well enough to beat Mizzou. But If we're being realistic about beating Arky, Auburn, and hopefully the SEC west champ in Atlanta, we can't rely on a QB who's first, second, third, and final read is the RB...
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:26 pm to
I did think he seemed to do a better job of working through reads vs Mizzou but I do agree it has to improve. Also doesn't always seem to trust his line in pass protection.

And yea, you're definitely right that vs teams like Auburn and MSU (or whoever we'd face in Atlanta if we get there), we do need more of a downfield passing threat or else we will have a much tougher time.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:39 pm to
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We haven't lost a game because of him yet (and I realize that's not the best standard).


But everyone all said before the season that with our running game all we needed was a game manager that didn't make mistakes and turn the ball over. We got what they wanted.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:44 pm to
And honestly I still think that in all of our games except maybe the Auburn game, that's all we need and I think Mason can do it.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26172 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:08 pm to
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But everyone all said before the season that with our running game all we needed was a game manager that didn't make mistakes and turn the ball over. We got what they wanted.


And we're 5-1, top 10 in the country, and leading the east. What else could you want right now? Every goal we started with at the beginning of the season is obtainable.
Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
729 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:27 am to
What else?...I wanted the win at Columbia. But, I get your point.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:28 am to
quote:

What else?...I wanted the win at Columbia


we didn't lose to SC because of mason. Not even close.

And ya know...there are far worse things than checking down. I mean, he's completing 70% of his passes and making good decisions. That's a good thing. I'd rather have a QB that checks down than a guy who locks in on his primary receiver and chucks it his direction regardless of what the coverage dictates.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 7:29 am
Posted by ugastudent
Member since Mar 2012
1337 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:34 am to
quote:

a QB that checks down than a guy who locks in on his primary receiver and chucks it his direction regardless of what the coverage dictates.


we will have that next year. Can't wait to hear people complain about then.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:37 am to
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we will have that next year. Can't wait to hear people complain about then.


people will always complain about the QB unless he's an all american.

And yes, we will struggle with ramsey at QB. That's not a knock on him, that's just the way it goes with young, new starters. Murray was meh as a freshman. Stafford was God awful his first year until the last 3 games. Ramsey will make some stafford like throw on a deep out and everyone will claim he should've started this year. Then he'll throw one in teh middle directly to the MLB with no receiver around and people will want to put in bauta.

It just sucks becuase our true QB of the future will be here in '16 and we'll have to decide if we go ahead and give him the keys, or let ramsey play it on out.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17459 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:38 am to
Terrible thread is terrible.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19081 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:41 am to
I love how he played against Missouri. Patient, accurate, smart, and got rid of the ball quickly.

The short passes were like an extension of our running game and kept us in a nice rhythm while frustrating the heck out of the Mizzou defense.

We get more of the same on Saturday and we'll have a nice shot at a win.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:45 am to
Something my buddy pointed out to me that nobody has mentioned here that I've seen is about moving bennett. We've all been excited about MM and JSW being back so they can run deep, which is fine. But the REAL benefit is moving bennett back to the slot. He simply isn't an outside guy that's going to stretch a defense, that's not his game. He has always excelled in the middle matched up on LBs or 3rd/4th CBs. On his first half TD against missouri where mason threw that pretty ball to the corner it was bennett in the slot. That is going to make things so much easier for mason going forward, IMO.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19081 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:52 am to
Loved the work Mitchell got in the Mizzou game, too.

Some easy pitch and catch getting him used to game speed and getting hit.

I'm looking for Bobo to do some hitch and go routes with Mitchell this Saturday as they start to open up the entire playbook to him again.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:19 am to
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But the REAL benefit is moving bennett back to the slot.


Completely agree that this is probably the most significant aspect of getting Mitchell and JSW back. Just as important as actually having them playing. As you said, he isn't the type of WR you expect to get separation vs a team's #1 CB, and that's not a knock on him at all. And forcing them to account for him seems to open up the game for the TE too if last week is any indication.

And aside from Bennett catching the ball, now he can be the guy blocking on those quick passes when we run them, which is a very very underrated part of his game.
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