Started By
Message

Its obvious the secrant is jealous about what arkansas is about to come

Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:31 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132376 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:31 pm
It may not be this year but it will be another year or two.

Bret is doing everything the right way and getting us better lines on both sides of the ball.

Meanwhile, other qbs are getting high our qb is going to camp to get better.

While other coaches try to cheese, line their offense up quickly to get an offside call or not care about player safety. In other words, getting to play ncaafootball on gaming system in real life or getting dwis.

Our coach is trying to get all 3 phases of the game up to championship caliber.

Anything else you want to add?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42350 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:45 pm to
quote:


Anything else you want to add?


Arkansas is so under the radar that people who are paid by ESPN to analyze the SEC didn't put any effort into scouting Arkansas for their programming today.

According to their analysts, Arkansas has only one good D-linemen, Flowers, no DTs to speak of, and QB play was all Brandon Allen's fault last year and to top it off they were talking like it was the same receiving corp coming back for this year.

The only high side for the team they had was the running backs which would only be if a Oline could be "patched" together for this year.

If that isn't flying under the radar, I don't know what is.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:12 pm to
Honestly, you have the advantage when you're under the radar.

Embrace it.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:14 pm to
I want to believe.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46451 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

According to their analysts, Arkansas has only one good D-linemen, Flowers, no DTs to speak of, and QB play was all Brandon Allen's fault last year and to top it off they were talking like it was the same receiving corp coming back for this year.

The only high side for the team they had was the running backs which would only be if a Oline could be "patched" together for this year.



those frickers won't know what hit em. they're gonna have to redo the work they were supposed to do today.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42350 posts
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:40 pm to
Just a random thought, but in the pressers, when asked about Nick Marshall, Gus gave a generic coach speak answer about how it would be handled, swift, justly, etc. This answer leaves the possibility of a game suspension, because it didn't answer the question asked which was if a suspension was possible.

Does it matter? No, except the not knowing would cause a team to have to waste time preparing for both QBs.

Bert was asked about it and talked about the disciplinary policy and x offense led to x punishment and the coach had very little say in the matter and that "he will play".

So either Bert don't give a frick who we play, we will do what we do, and its up to you to beat us, we are not going to beat ourselves or like sitting around a poker table sucking cheap cigars, drinking cold bear, and chomping on processed meats, Bert threw his cards on the table and called Gus' bluff...
Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
Member since Dec 2010
13436 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 3:42 am to
I'll be shocked if Marshall misses a single down in our game. Gus is too puss to suspend him.

And I agree that in all the years of being under the radar, this is by far the lowest we've been touted.

We should've beat LSU on the road last year and won a few others as well.

I personally like it, go for the no respect angle, usually works wonders
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:18 am to
No way do I see Gus suspending Marshall for your game. If they were playing Southcentral Idaho State A&M, then maybe. But he won't for Arkansas.

As for the OP, I'm excited about what Bert is doing. It all starts and ends with the lines. The RB's are great, but they lose their effectiveness with no line (to state the obvious). Teams can always find guys to catch the ball if you have a half way capable QB.

Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:25 am to
quote:

We should've beat LSU on the road last year and won a few others as well.

I personally like it, go for the no respect angle, usually works wonders


This. People look at records and make blanket statements about expectations. People looked at Missouri's shitty arse record in year 1 and assumed it would be more of the same in year 2. What they don't stop to look at is how did that record come around? In our case, we had a win that we blew at UGA. Could/should have won at UF. Syracuse...the team had quit by then.

You guys could/should have beaten Rutgers, were in the A&M game, MSU was OT and like you said, had LSU on the ropes. Arky really wasn't that far from being 7-5 and bowling in Bert's first year. But people don't stop to realize that. They just see the record and don't look deeper than that.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:28 am to
I think I'm done with the rant- for the moment anyway. There's just so much stupid and outright fabrication a person can take.

quote:

quote: If anything, Bert overachieved last season.

Statements such as these are the exact reason I never have liked the hogs. The fans are complete idiots with unreal expectations. They also put whomever the head coach is and Bo Mattingly on the same hierarchy with Jesus Christ.



First of all, how the hell does what he's replying to even slightly give off the vibe of unreal expectations. Secondly, Bo Mattingly what???? What? What?

I'm just done with the stupid right now, scared it might rub off.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 8:29 am
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:33 am to
quote:


As for the OP, I'm excited about what Bert is doing. It all starts and ends with the lines. The RB's are great, but they lose their effectiveness with no line (to state the obvious).


We had 3 NFL RBs on Petrino's teams (Davis, Johnson, Wingo) and could barely break a 100 yards a game rushing between the 3 of them because the line couldn't run block. Petrino blamed the RBs for this.

quote:

Teams can always find guys to catch the ball if you have a half way capable QB.


If you watched out games last year you would have saw this isn't always true. Brandon Allen isn't that bad of a QB, his WRs made him look that bad.

I hate to say it, but you have to compare Brandon Allen to Casey Dick. Both had different position coaches and OCs their first 2 years in games (3 if you count BA's RS year), Dick made huge strides statistically his 3rd year, a year after two "QB Gurus" were on staff (Alex Woods and Gus)mainly because the WR corp was better as a whole. Brandon has the advantage of playing two years in the same offense where Dick had a different OC all four years.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:36 am to
quote:




First of all, how the hell does what he's replying to even slightly give off the vibe of unreal expectations.


I laughed at that, 3 wins = unrealistic expectations.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:40 am to
I didn't mean that as a slight to Allen if it came off that way. I suppose what I was saying was I think it's easier to find guys who can catch the ball when you're on the recruiting trail. Just more of them than quality linemen.

Speaking of which...looking for big things in the years to come from Wallace. Still burns me that we didn't land him.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:46 am to
quote:

I didn't mean that as a slight to Allen if it came off that way. I suppose what I was saying was I think it's easier to find guys who can catch the ball when you're on the recruiting trail. Just more of them than quality linemen.

Speaking of which...looking for big things in the years to come from Wallace. Still burns me that we didn't land him.



I get what you are saying, and would agree it should be easier to find guys who can catch the ball then put the ball where/when/how it needs to be.

BA gets to carry the blame for the passing game in the media, especially on ESPN during media days, while he can certainly improve, its unfair to blame him for his completion % or the ineffectiveness that resulted in the passing game because his WRs were dropping catch able passes.

This staff has done a great job in shoring up the O-line, Wallace is "too good not to see the field" this year, but you will have a hard time figuring out how that will happen because of the other guys on the line.

I also thing people over estimate the level of QB Bert needs, outside of Wilson he had some pretty mediocre QBs in Wisconsin and still was competitive. If you buy into the star rankings, his QB recruiting is likely the best its ever been at Arkansas, all the QBs on the depth chart were 4*s and Storey could be bumped to a 5* in this class.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

If you buy into the star rankings, his QB recruiting is likely the best its ever been at Arkansas, all the QBs on the depth chart were 4*s and Storey could be bumped to a 5* in this class.


I only buy into them to a certain extent. We're in much the same situation as Arky with our QB in the next class. Lock is currently a 4* and I've seen enough tape, followed how he did at the Elite11 and read other people's thoughts enough that I'm just glad to have him. Really don't care if he gets a bump to 5* at this point or not. Just know he's good and I'm happy to have him. About the only thing Lock getting bumped up at this point does is give me something to talk shite about on tRant.

If you had to predict how the QB situation plays out for the next 4-5 years, what do you see? I know in between there, you have Rafe as well. Is he the one that gets lost in the middle with Storey coming in behind him?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:43 am to
quote:


If you had to predict how the QB situation plays out for the next 4-5 years, what do you see? I know in between there, you have Rafe as well. Is he the one that gets lost in the middle with Storey coming in behind him?


I have no idea, Storey is getting the hype, its probably well deserved, but he plays at a small HS in a smaller classification in the river valley in Arkansas, so I have my reservations.

He could be the next Tyler Wilson or the next Gary Brashears from this area.

If I had to pick a QB that got lost in the shuffle, my guess would be Rafe, just because he seems like a better fit as a QB in an offense like Mullens. It could just as easily be one/both of the Allen brothers or Storey.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16989 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 9:52 am to
The WRs were bad last year. They ran terrible routes and when they did get open couldn't catch for shite.

Don't get me wrong, BA made some bad decisions but the only reliable target he had most of the season was a true freshman. This should never by the case on any team.

Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 10:11 am to
quote:


Don't get me wrong, BA made some bad decisions


He did, there were several "over thrown" balls that resulted in bad plays or turnovers, however, I found it interesting Chaney mentioned some of these plays being where Allen would throw to a spot where the receiver should have been, but the receiver cut his route 3 yards short or went to the wrong area.

So technically BA put the ball where it was suppose to be, the WR ran the wrong route, the OC shouldn't be calling those plays because the wrong route was being ran more often than not.

There was plenty of blame to be spread around for those plays, BA has been the catch-all for the blame, probably because everyone knew the WRs wouldn't be able to catch the blame if it was tossed their way.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10401 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:49 am to
Under the 'Bert is fat' and 'Arkansas sucks' statements, I feel a little undercurrent of concern on the SECRant. Especially coming from toward the Auburn fanbase for some reason.

The knowledgeable of them can see that we are moving forward, slowly maybe, but coming.

Payback is going to be hell.

Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46451 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

probably because everyone knew the WRs wouldn't be able to catch the blame if it was tossed their way.

first pageprev pagePage 1 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter