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Gary Pinkel "our Player Development Program is second to none"
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:48 pm
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: That's a good question. I'm glad you asked that. In the last seven years, even with our crummy season in 2012, we're the eighth winningest BCS program in the country for those five years. If you took our recruiting, I think our so-called rating, I'd say we're between 28 and 32 average, somewhere like that. Something's wrong there. All I'm going to say about that, I think our recruiting process is different. I think we have a system that we believe in. That's what we do at Mizzou. I think our Player Development Program is second to none. We call it 'Mizzou Made.' Not only that, but our APR ranking academically is one of the best in the nation. First-round draft picks, like I mentioned before. We're doing a lot of good things. How many stars a guy has next to him, we never looked at once in recruiting. I don't care where we're ranked. If we're 13th or 35th, doesn't matter to me. We have a system in place. I think we do a very good job of developing players. I'm very proud of all the people that make all those things happen.
Here's the thing. All of these pundits, all of these posters...they look exclusively at these recruiting rankings. So when questions arise about Mizzou losing this guy or replacing that guy I kind of chuckle. "Stars" may matter to your guy, but to ours they simply don't. He routinely makes the recruiting rankings look silly.
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:49 pm to JesusQuintana
Stars are about probability, so its like having 5 or 6 showing in blackjack.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:50 pm to JesusQuintana
thread is shite, not about Bert
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:53 pm to JesusQuintana
The last 10 National Champions have been at the top level of recruiting.
His way works to win a depleted East title but most schools that's not good enough.
His way works to win a depleted East title but most schools that's not good enough.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:53 pm to JesusQuintana
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Here's the thing. All of these pundits, all of these posters...they look exclusively at these recruiting rankings. So when questions arise about Mizzou losing this guy or replacing that guy I kind of chuckle. "Stars" may matter to your guy, but to ours they simply don't. He routinely makes the recruiting rankings look silly.
You mean he develops players well. But for good majority of the country "stars" still matter as most of your schools that finish at the top of their conferences have had good recurring classes with highly rated players.
ETA: Brooks beat a highly rated Florida State team at UK with less than 5 4-star players. But that isn't the norm by any means.
And yes, replacing key players still take an effort too.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:58 pm to JesusQuintana
What does it mean when he finally got a high-ranking recruit and that recruit washed out like soap scum? Is there some sort of Player Regression Program too? 
Also, you're a pederast.
Also, you're a pederast.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:58 pm to roadGator
Why did UGA, UT, or UF's way work to win a depleted East?
Did UGA win a depleted East when we got demolished with injuries?
Did UGA win a depleted East when we got demolished with injuries?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 2:59 pm to JesusQuintana
Pinkel is a great coach, no doubt about it. His staff and he do a great job.
Recruiting rankings are important though. You can have good seasons and put kids in the pros, but if you wanna win championships you have to recruit a preponderance of great players to mix with a healthy doseof solid blue collar players iin order to get the chemistry right.
But I get what Pinkel is saying. He has a right to be proud of his track record.
Recruiting rankings are important though. You can have good seasons and put kids in the pros, but if you wanna win championships you have to recruit a preponderance of great players to mix with a healthy doseof solid blue collar players iin order to get the chemistry right.
But I get what Pinkel is saying. He has a right to be proud of his track record.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:00 pm to JesusQuintana
I predict if he doesn't start landing more recruiting "stars," that SEC east division title from last year is going to be a historical anomaly.
If Missouri is interested in conference championships in the SEC, they are going to have to do much better than "between 28 and 32 average" in the recruiting rankings.
If Missouri is interested in conference championships in the SEC, they are going to have to do much better than "between 28 and 32 average" in the recruiting rankings.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:01 pm to randomways
DGB was Pinkek's 3rd 5*.
The other two were first round picks, DGB would have been. So even if you penalize GP for him being a thug...he's still 2/3 on them. Anyone else hitting at 66%?
The other two were first round picks, DGB would have been. So even if you penalize GP for him being a thug...he's still 2/3 on them. Anyone else hitting at 66%?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:08 pm to elposter
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I predict if he doesn't start landing more recruiting "stars," that SEC east division title from last year is going to be a historical anomaly.
If Missouri is interested in conference championships in the SEC, they are going to have to do much better than "between 28 and 32 average" in the recruiting rankings.
I don't agree. It is going to be difficult to win national championships without putting together top ten classes, but Pinkel can keep winning at a high level doing what he does. We got to the SEC championship in our second season, and the East was down like it was in 2010 when USC won the SEC East for the first time 20+ years after joining the conference.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:08 pm to scrooster
A part of the quote is missing there, he goes on to say that they don't recruit football players. They recruit guys that can BECOME great football players. You can't teach a guy to run a 4.4 if he runs a 4.9. They can teach a guy to play football if he has the physical skills to match. If it's evident anywhere it's at WR where we had everyone 6'3,6'4,6'5. Outside of DGB none of those guys were highly touted recruits, but now that they're gone people think we've lost 4 or 5 stars on our team. It's really incredible.
Biggest creditor I think is the DLine coach Craig Kuligowski. This dude has turned 2 and 3 stars into draft picks over the last few years. Marcus Golden is going to wreck some folks this year.
Biggest creditor I think is the DLine coach Craig Kuligowski. This dude has turned 2 and 3 stars into draft picks over the last few years. Marcus Golden is going to wreck some folks this year.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:08 pm to JesusQuintana
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Did UGA win a depleted East
Yes. South Carolina was the beat team in 2012. UGA got a good draw out of the West. Unfortunately, USC didn't.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:08 pm to scrooster
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Pinkel is a great coach, no doubt about it. His staff and he do a great job. Recruiting rankings are important though. You can have good seasons and put kids in the pros, but if you wanna win championships you have to recruit a preponderance of great players to mix with a healthy doseof solid blue collar players iin order to get the chemistry right. But I get what Pinkel is saying. He has a right to be proud of his track record.
Damn it Scrooster quit posting this sh!t, I don't want to value your opinions or agree with you.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:09 pm to JesusQuintana
Mizzou always find diamonds in the rough.
Since 2007, they rank top 10 nationally in wins and top 5 with first round draft picks. I doubt they had a top 20 recruiting class during that time
Since 2007, they rank top 10 nationally in wins and top 5 with first round draft picks. I doubt they had a top 20 recruiting class during that time
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:10 pm to JesusQuintana
Oh man y'all are so screwed after he's gone.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:16 pm to Sarcastro
quote:Y'all are like a broken record. What's the point of specifically pointing out how long it took USC to reach Atlanta? Why not focus on the fact that Vandy and UK have never made it? Or compare yourselves to Florida who also made it the second year after the championship game started?
We got to the SEC championship in our second season, and the East was down like it was in 2010 when USC won the SEC East for the first time 20+ years after joining the conference.
I think it's because y'all are mad that's all you have to hold over our heads. With everyone else in the division you can just name the score of the game from last year, but not ours. If Mizzou is a better program than USC y'all should stop trying to compare us. But y'all can't stop.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:19 pm to CockRocket
If anything is a broken record it's USC's ability to finish 2nd in the East.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:21 pm to JoeMoTiger
Recruiting service stars are a fairly efficient method of judging just how ready to play college football a high school student's body is. Basically how developed his body and mind are compared to other kids his age in High School.
There are a ton of 2-3 star kids that don't get higher rankings because they haven't developed enough physically. Pinkel finds those kids whose bodies have the potential to add weight without losing speed and tries to help them develop into the same condition as the higher rated kids were in high school.
4-5 star kids are ready to play at the college level as true freshmen. Pinkel likes to have kids learn the system and adjust to college for their first year. During that time they also help them develop their bodies into the condition they should be. That way as the kid's bodies become ready, they already also have a good knowledge of the system.
Of course the kids that are ready when they land on campus play as true freshmen and those are usually the higher ranked kids MU lands.
TL/DR: Assigning a kid stars is a frozen in time ranking of HS kids. Kids can still grow and develop while going to college too.
There are a ton of 2-3 star kids that don't get higher rankings because they haven't developed enough physically. Pinkel finds those kids whose bodies have the potential to add weight without losing speed and tries to help them develop into the same condition as the higher rated kids were in high school.
4-5 star kids are ready to play at the college level as true freshmen. Pinkel likes to have kids learn the system and adjust to college for their first year. During that time they also help them develop their bodies into the condition they should be. That way as the kid's bodies become ready, they already also have a good knowledge of the system.
Of course the kids that are ready when they land on campus play as true freshmen and those are usually the higher ranked kids MU lands.
TL/DR: Assigning a kid stars is a frozen in time ranking of HS kids. Kids can still grow and develop while going to college too.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 3:22 pm to TigerCruise
That doesn't make much sense, I'm pretty sure we've only fished second in the division twice.
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