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Cowan off the team, Tretola will be here in July

Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:21 pm
So... Cowan finally totally off of the team period.

Sad, dude had ability but evidently not in the classroom..

Tretola will be here after July 11th... final class..
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10401 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:44 pm to
Nice article on J Cornelius in today's ADG. He's going to have to step in and be ready. Sounds like he may be. Everybody talking about his great hands.
Posted by Marty McFrat
Arkansas hell
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 5:44 pm to
Feel bad for Cowan. I really hoped he could get his grades in order.
Posted by Chi O loves the Hogs
Dickson
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 6:05 pm to
Cowan was really immature, I knew he wouldn't cut it
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 6:13 pm to
Arkansas is not a hard school, if Cowan couldn't make the grades here then he's just not ready to play D-1 football.

Tretola could be our center, glad he's finally making it to Fayetteville.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Marty McFrat
Arkansas hell
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 7:04 pm to
I am not the smartest guy out there but I found it rather hard. My high school also didn't prepare me very well for college so I was in over my head quickly before I was able to get ahold of it. I'd take summer classes because I could remember the stuff easier and it would also make my fall/spring schedule easier. I was a supply chain major with a minor in information systems.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:05 pm to
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I am not the smartest guy out there but I found it rather hard.


I recently took some classes to knock out another degree, college today is way easier than it was a decade ago. The entire mindset of the administrators and professors has changed, when I completed my first degree, it was a "college isn't for everyone, you will either do what is necessary to graduate or you can go get a job tomorrow". What was necessary ended up being an additional 3x of study outside of class for each class visited if you wanted a C, want a B or A? 4-6xs additional study and research outside of class.

Today its more of a "you have to have a degree to have a chance at getting a job that pays well, so we want you to graduate" type mindset. 3x of study outside of class resulted in near perfect scores.

Bert also tweeted out that a professor sent him an email bragging about 6 of the new freshmen who showed up on campus last month. Grade issues should be a thing of the past, which is good with the academic redshirt policy going into effect soon. There were more grade problems under Petrino or involving his recruits than I can recall from the rest of our time in the SEC combined.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:20 pm to
What's the academic redshirt policy, again? I can't remember the details. That's an NCAA-wide thing, right?
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40889 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:42 pm to
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I recently took some classes to knock out another degree, college today is way easier than it was a decade ago.


I'm doing this right now as well. It's amazing how much easier it is now.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:10 pm to
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What's the academic redshirt policy, again? I can't remember the details. That's an NCAA-wide thing, right?


If a player's GPA falls below 2.3, they automatically have to redshirt, they are still "eligible", but not allowed to play in games.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:11 pm to
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I'm doing this right now as well. It's amazing how much easier it is now.


The freshmen level courses required more effort and work the first time than the last senior level classes I took, no joke.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:40 pm to
Are you sure you guys weren't just more motivated, experienced, and mature when you went back? That was true in my case.

I started right out of high school in 2004 and got my last degree in 2012. I was a much, much better student when I went back to school for my second and third degrees. I actually knew what I wanted to do and what was important.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40889 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 12:16 am to
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Are you sure you guys weren't just more motivated, experienced, and mature when you went back? That was true in my case.


It's definitely a big part of it for me at least. Now I actually know exactly what this degree will do for me as opposed to the first time through when I just wanted a degree and would figure it out later.

Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132347 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:47 am to
For me, college seemed easier than high school. I'm more mature and I have put in the time to study and meet with tutors.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:33 am to
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Are you sure you guys weren't just more motivated, experienced, and mature when you went back? That was true in my case.


Could be, but I had less time to put into the last time compared to the first and was able to receive better grades.

I'm counting the Frosh year because the Soph year was skewed as that's when showing up to 8am classes still drunk from the night before and taking tests hung over started.
Posted by Marty McFrat
Arkansas hell
Member since Feb 2011
14827 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 1:33 pm to
What are y'all's majors now? My business classes weren't no joke. Especially my supply chain classes. But the supply chain college within Walton is rated as the #13 supply chain college.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 2:32 pm to
EE and PSY.
Posted by Kilgore Snout
Ilium, NY
Member since Jul 2012
844 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:33 pm to
You've got to think about how hard schools are trying to raise their admissions too. If the fail out rate is 45%, then you don't have a lot of people wanting to choose your school over the state school down the street or the next state over that "hard" school. Because once you fail out of one school, it's not that easy to get in and succeed somewhere else comparable without dishing a lot of cash.

I saw this at my college. I went to private engineering school. 8 of us graduated of the 64 that started as freshmen in my major over a decade ago. The school was known for being "hard" and the men's average GPA was something like a 2.8. And this was with an average incoming ACT of 30. I talked to the Dean of my department about this once and he said "A 2.0 is a C average, that's 70%, and C is supposed to be representative of the average. So a 2.8 average is just slightly above average..."

I didn't think so when my friends back home in the University of Arkansas engineering department all had 3.5+ GPAs and we would all compete against each other in the job market. When I brought this up he said that you were going to get the "good" degrees based on your graduate degree research, and when you go to a school like this, the other schools you would be applying to for a masters and PhD candidacy already know what your GPA at that school means.



Anyway, long story short, there have been a lot of admin changes at the school I went to, they doubled admissions, and the fail out rate dropped and the average GPAs have gone up. I follow all their literature and everything is about raising money, building more dorms, and increasing enrollment.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12417 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:27 am to
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What are y'all's majors now? My business classes weren't no joke. Especially my supply chain classes. But the supply chain college within Walton is rated as the #13 supply chain college.



I started out in business and transferred out of the WCOB to Poly Sci/History (was pre-law), mostly because I didn't care for business and wanted to go to law school, which is ironic because I ended up not going to law school and went into business.

As a Fulbright College of Arts and Sciences student, the hardest aspect of the structure was the fact that most tests were essay-driven, and practically all of my classes required 15 to 20 page papers at one point in time. However, it was extremely beneficial to me in the long run because written communication skills are extremely important in business, and I've met several business grads who couldn't string together a coherent, grammatically correct sentence to save their lives.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 9:47 am
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:08 am to
quote:

What are y'all's majors now? My business classes weren't no joke. Especially my supply chain classes. But the supply chain college within Walton is rated as the #13 supply chain college.
I went back to school for physics and after that went to UAMS.
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