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Is this roster breakdown accurate?

Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:03 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:03 pm
After Hall and Colquitt received schollys:

2014 Arkansas Razorbacks
10 Redshirt Seniors
Patrick Arinze
Daunte Carr
Luke Charpentier
AJ Derby
Cameron Jefferson
Johnathan McClure
Braylon Mitchell
Chris Stringer
Alan Turner
Demetrius Wilson

8 Seniors
Tiquention Coleman
Brey Cook
Allan D'Appollonio
Trey Flowers
Sam Irwin-Hill
Tevin Mitchel
Martrell Spaight
Carroll Washington

11 Redshirt Juniors
Brandon Allen
Austin Beck
Marcus Danenhauer
Rohan Gaines
DeMarcus Hodge
Mitchell Loewen
Davyon McKinney
Grady Ollison
Mitch Smothers
Alex Voelzke
Kody Walker

6 Juniors
D'Arthur Cowan
Keon Hatcher
Will Hines
Otha Peters
Sebastian Tretola
Jonathan Williams

11 Redshirt Sophomores
Cordale Boyd
Jared Collins
Eric Hawkins
Cody Hollister
Taiwan Johnson
Brandon Lewis
Darius Philon
Jeremy Sprinkle
Jeremy Ward
JaMichael Winston
Deatrich Wise Jr.

9 Sophomores
Alex Collins
DJ Dean
Brooks Ellis
Hunter Henry
Denver Kirkland
Korliss Marshall
Drew Morgan
Dan Skipper
Josh Williams

9 Redshirt Freshmen
Austin Allen
Tevin Beanum
Alex Brignoni
De'Andre Coley
Denzell Evans
Reeve Koehler
Ke'Tyrus Marks
Damon Mitchell
Kendrick Payne

21 Freshmen
Anthony Brown
Tyler Colquitt
Jared Cornelius
Juan Day
Kendrick Edwards
Dwayne Eugene
Cornelius Floyd
Khalia Hackett
Jake Hall
Cole Hedlund
Bijhon Jackson
Jack Kraus
Josh Liddell
Rafe Peavey
Frank Ragnow
Santos Ramirez
Randy Ramsey
JoJo Robinson
Henre' Toliver
Brian Wallace
Armon Watts

If so anyone else notice the number of JUCOs needed to get the senior class to 18?
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:28 pm to
10 of 18.

Lots of walk-ons and Jucos in that senior class. I don't think Derby has been given a scholarship but obviously he is going to play.

Otis put out an update on Tretola tonight on 247 that makes it sound like he might not make it.

Also, do you think Kendrick Payne is going to play? I don't think anyone really noticed that he started with the 1's in every single scrimmage this spring.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:38 pm to
Isn't Kendrick Payne like 6'6"
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:41 pm to
That's Kendrick Edwards.

Kendrick Paybe is a 6'0 RS FR walk-on out of California. How he ended up at Arkansas, I have no idea.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 11:42 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

Otis put out an update on Tretola tonight on 247 that makes it sound like he might not make it.

damn

reasons?
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:51 pm to
No. Here's what he said:

I was just told he will be here by time practice starts but source really didn't seem like he wanted to say much. I still tried to find out if he will be here by second semester. Just never got a straight answer.

I realize I'm jumping to conclusions but he was supposed to be here twice already. I'm starting to think the addition of Jefferson was more about Tretola not making it.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 11:55 pm
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:09 am to
So many Kendrick's
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:22 am to
Fine bit of research, fact checking, and verification there by Ote.
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:51 pm to
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10 of 18.

Lots of walk-ons and Jucos in that senior class. I don't think Derby has been given a scholarship but obviously he is going to play.


Been saying this for two years now to anyone who'll listen -- not only was Petrino's recruiting terrible on paper, but the resulting attrition from his last three classes has been horrendous, and it's largely why we've been so shallow and terrible the last few years.

Seriously, just look at his 2010 and 2011 classes -- which should be making up the bulk of the RS Sr, Sr., and RS Jr classes -- and how many of those guys either never hit campus or didn't make it a year before leaving or getting bounced. I used to know the exact number, but something like 15 guys from those two classes weren't on the roster by the time we played the 2012 Cotton Bowl. And yet, somehow last year is totally on Bert, despite the fact that several of our linebackers were either walk-ons, former walk-ons or true freshmen.
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:56 pm to
Of the seniors, redshirt or true, the only stud I see is Flowers, with serviceable guys like Cook and Mitchel in there.

Of the juniors, the only stud is Jonathan Williams, with some serviceable guys like Gaines and Hines in there.

You really don't start getting into the quality players until you hit the sophomore group, who were either recruited by or flourished under the current staff.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:31 am to
quote:


Seriously, just look at his 2010 and 2011 classes -- which should be making up the bulk of the RS Sr, Sr., and RS Jr classes -- and how many of those guys either never hit campus or didn't make it a year before leaving or getting bounced. I used to know the exact number, but something like 15 guys from those two classes weren't on the roster by the time we played the 2012 Cotton Bowl. And yet, somehow last year is totally on Bert, despite the fact that several of our linebackers were either walk-ons, former walk-ons or true freshmen.


Yes.

If a decent class (2007) followed by a great class (2008) can lead to 21-5, what does 3 straight sub-par classes do to a roster?

I know, I know, Jeff Long's fault.

So far CBB has put together 2 very good classes and is working on what appears to be a great class.

quote:

Of the seniors, redshirt or true, the only stud I see is Flowers, with serviceable guys like Cook and Mitchel in there. Of the juniors, the only stud is Jonathan Williams, with some serviceable guys like Gaines and Hines in there. You really don't start getting into the quality players until you hit the sophomore group, who were either recruited by or flourished under the current staff.


Yes. Going of past tendencies and results for the program based on class of contributors, 4-8 wins is a realistic possibility, any win total is likely to see games lost that should of/could of been won.

Next season and the year after (and the year after) should be capable of 10+ wins each.

This based on bad seasons being led by Sophs and Freshmen (for the most part) and great seasons led by Juniors/Seniors (for the most part).
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:09 am to
Payne turning into a player for us would be such a great surprise. Maybe he'll be our first JJ Watt-Bielema'esque success story. I know our secondary sucks, but for a RS-FR Walkon to be getting consistent reps with the 1's, he's got to be busting his butt. Hope it works out for him.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:08 pm to
Dick Davenport said Tretola should arrive a few days before fall camp.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Payne turning into a player for us would be such a great surprise. Maybe he'll be our first JJ Watt-Bielema'esque success story. I know our secondary sucks, but for a RS-FR Walkon to be getting consistent reps with the 1's, he's got to be busting his butt. Hope it works out for him.


It might not be just that the secondary sucks as much as it might be Payne was a guy who the scouts thought was too short, too slow, didn't play well in HS, etc. (I'm guessing, I'm not familiar with his background).

If that's the case, it shows the other guys who are a "step slow", "too short", or any other reasons a player is over looked (from a small school for example) that if they walk-on at Arkansas they will have just as an equal opportunity to compete for playing time at a position with an "all everything" recruit.

That is probably part of the "walk-on program" that CBB talks about, get the guys to pass up a D1-AA/DII partial scholly/walk on to walk on at Arkansas at for a real shot to prove they can compete with the best in the land in the best conference.

The staff were also bragging on Coley at S over the last year, while not a walk-on, he was a guy who was very under the radar in HS.

It could be the guys at the positions just aren't that good, or it could be finding the guys who, to be cliche, "have a chip on their shoulder" and out perform them once on campus.
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