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Is the new dress casual really just sloppy?

Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:34 pm
Came across this reading our local paper. It's just a quick Letter to the Editor regarding a person's experience at a Broadway play that is currently on tour in Louisville.

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Recently, I attended a matinee performance of "The Book of Mormon" at the Kentucky Center for the Arts. I was both shocked and appalled at the less than appropriate attire worn by the majority of patrons. We all understand "dress down Fridays." But attending the theater should demand "dressing up."

The center was a mass of flip-flops, cargo pants, short skirts and outlandish plaid Bermudas. With beer and hot dogs in hand the audience seemed more ready for "batter up" than "curtain up."


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I don't like to think I'm a clothes nazi or anything, but I kind of agree with her. There's certain events and places you go that you should probably "dress up". When I go to the theater here, I usually wear a dress or if it's ridiculously cold out dress pants and a nice blouse. Unless it was an afternoon matinee or on a field trip with the kids at work, would I really dress "down" from that.

And to be honest, I was even more surprised at some of the comments to the article linked on Facebook. Where people accused the letter writer of being an "elitist", that they should "wear whatever the hell I want", and that "maybe they had just enough money to attend the show". Is what she suggested really that bad?

It reminds of some of the rants I've had with coworkers recently that leggings aren't pants and shouldn't be worn as such (especially in a work setting). Have people in general lost some common sense when it comes to dressing appropriately when out for certain events, get togethers, etc?
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:36 pm to
If it wasn't a play by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, I'd agree.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:37 pm to
I agree with you, but I doubt you'll get much support for the movement. I personally hate dressing up but if I was going to the theater, I certainly would.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:43 pm to
There should be a dress code for a theatre like there is for restaurants that require men to wear a blazer. People that go to the theatre in cargo shorts, t-shirts or flip flops are pure trash.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:43 pm to
Two issues with this article. First it involves the city of Louisville and we both know how much trash that city produces and it is the Book of Morman.

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There's certain events and places you go that you should probably "dress up".


100% agree.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:49 pm to
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There's certain events and places you go that you should probably "dress up".

I blame megachurch pastors for wearing jeans and tshirts.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

If it wasn't a play by Trey Parker and Matt Stone, I'd agree.


Well, I'm not talking about just the theater or this particular play. I'm talking more so in general. A good example would be my coworkers. Personally, I think a teacher should dress nice (our PE folks aside) majority of the time. They're setting an example for students in how to dress on the job if you're working at a job that doesn't require a specific uniform.

You'd be surprised at the hell that was raised when my boss suggested the men set an example by wearing a nice shirt, tie, and slacks (ties are actually part of our student's uniforms). And that the females wear dress casual (i.e. slacks, no jeans except on "spirit days", no flip flops, dresses, etc). He actually had people file a grievance against it and request the district provide a clothes voucher.

It was pretty ridiculous.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:58 pm to
As long as they're wearing clothes, people should be able to dress however they want to wherever they want.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:58 pm to
I agree with the sentiment, but the South Lark crowd aren't usually familiar with the theater.


In general though, people seem to be dressing really sloppy as of late. It bugs me. Nothing pisses me off more than jeans where they shouldn't be.
Posted by blue_morrison
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 5:59 pm to
If you can't carry cargo wherever you go, the trip is pointless. I have to have cargo in every pocket
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:10 pm to
I stopped going to movie theaters years ago because, invariably, a Jabba the Hutt type would plop down near us and slobber over junk food throughout the movie.

That disgusting trend has infected audiences for plays, orchestral performances and the like. What is with all those fat slobs who need to chew every minute of their lives?

Posted by UMTigerRebel
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:10 pm to
I think people are dressing sloppier. What many people view now as appropriate for business casual is what I consider casual wear, and it's increasingly rare to see people dressed in business professional attire.

I also hate how sloppy some dress to fly. It's like they rolled out of bed and just went to the airport in their pajamas.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:20 pm to
We're not exactly talking about the opera here.

I do agree though that people (mostly teens and young adults) don't know how to dress up these days. I have friends who think "dressing up" means changing the type of jeans they wear.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:23 pm to
Definitely think we could use some more focus on dressing well, regardless if we're dressing up or down.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:24 pm to
I agree on the work side of it.

But for the rest of life, how does how someone dresses effect you? You're there for a play. What the person sitting next to you wears isn't part of the performance.

Having said that I would never wear shorts or a shirt without a collar to the theater. Movie theaters and airplanes are come as you are.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

I blame megachurch pastors for wearing jeans and tshirts.


I hardly think this is the underlying issue

Besides, the jean preacher crowd typically give far, far better sermons than those who wear suits and ties. I walk into church and see a pastor with a suit on, I know I better buckle up in my seat.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

regardless if we're dressing up or down.


True, many don't even know how to dress casual anymore.

For some reason, even in the summer, people who wear shorts to exclusively indoor events rubs me wrong. I know it shouldn't, but it seems tacky just because its how I was raised. I was always taught if you're gonna be indoors, you at least wear jeans and no hat. Shorts should be reserved for sporting events and other outdoor activities.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 6:29 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

But for the rest of life, how does how someone dresses effect you? You're there for a play. What the person sitting next to you wears isn't part of the performance.


Eh, it's less about how it effects you and more about an observation which usually results in a impression on what that person is like. Personally, I tend to think someone who dresses like a slob (not even necessarily casual, but sloppy) even to places where you should dress well tend to not have a lot of respect for themselves.

It's probably a shitty conclusion to jump to, but the reality is people are going to look at things like that and how you carry yourself.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:39 pm to
Probably a bit over stated, but I would agree, dress at least nicely for the theater.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 6:41 pm to
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People that go to the theatre in cargo shorts, t-shirts or flip flops are pure trash.


Agree.

BDU's are much more practical. Can get several snacks and a couple of drinks in the extra pockets, without worrying about the air conditioning getting too cold. A little extra fabric doesn't cost that much more.
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