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Why are Mizzou fans so Pro-Gay? Sam was one player out of 85.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:33 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:33 am
Why are Mizzou fans so pro-gay? Is that what it takes to be singled-out as "tough" and "brave" if you play for Missouri? You gotta be a gay white cake eater?
Mizzou fans should applaud all of their players, not just the gay ones.
Is there some kind of collective subculture happening in the state of Missouri, one that promotes gayness and meth labs in the same breath ... and should we be concerned?
I understand why the SEC does not have a buyout clause in the contract when a program joins the conference. But, much like the NBA has for racists, should the SEC have a clause in the contract whereas if you go overboard promoting gayness in your already bath-salt meth-producing-leading state, that you could be banned from the conference?
Come on Mizzourites, choose one or the other! Are you going to carry the torch for gay football players or for meth labs? Make up your mind. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Mizzou fans should applaud all of their players, not just the gay ones.
Is there some kind of collective subculture happening in the state of Missouri, one that promotes gayness and meth labs in the same breath ... and should we be concerned?
I understand why the SEC does not have a buyout clause in the contract when a program joins the conference. But, much like the NBA has for racists, should the SEC have a clause in the contract whereas if you go overboard promoting gayness in your already bath-salt meth-producing-leading state, that you could be banned from the conference?
Come on Mizzourites, choose one or the other! Are you going to carry the torch for gay football players or for meth labs? Make up your mind. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:33 am to scrooster
Lulz, the picture you decided to blow up to use for the OP.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:34 am to scrooster
How long have you hated gay people?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:34 am to scrooster
Yeah.... here at mizzou say frick straight people.
Try again.
Try again.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:35 am to scrooster
Vintage rooster. He's vintage.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:37 am to RamboMizzou
You kind of answered your own question with this sub culture thing. Its one player out of 85. Try again.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:37 am to scrooster
Do you hate them or something?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:40 am to scrooster
I have a hard time looking at that picture for more than a few seconds.
Before I have to fill a few jars.
Before I have to fill a few jars.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:40 am to TreyAnastasio
It's not about hating Gay people you MORON! It's about keeping your private life, PRIVATE! It has nothing to do with the North and south, it's what's right and wrong. If Michael Sam were an Aggie I guarantee these peckerheads from Missouri would be bashing the Aggies. Please geaux back to that shity conference you came from!
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:42 am to scrooster
I think thou doth protest too much, Rooster. Do you have some deep dark fantasy roaming around in that grey haired head?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:43 am to scrooster
I don't buy into the whole "homophobia=repressed gayness" argument. But I'm willing to make an exception for you.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:50 am to scrooster
Thread in response to a thread.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:06 am to GalvoAg
Anyone who claims I am a hater or homophobic in this thread ... lulz. Whatever.
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/no-hesitation-networks-airing-sam-071853044--nfl.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/no-hesitation-networks-airing-sam-071853044--nfl.html
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Excerpted from above link:
No hesitation for networks airing Sam reaction
NEW YORK (AP) -- The handsome football player gets drafted by an NFL team, plants an emotional kiss on his sweetheart and gives sportscasts a feel-good video clip.
It's a scene that plays out for dozens of draft picks.
But when a sobbing Michael Sam celebrated his selection by the St. Louis Rams by hugging and kissing his partner, another man, it made real and physical that an openly gay athlete had taken an unprecedented step toward an NFL career.
For some, the reaction was joy. For others, there was dismay or even anger. For the networks that carried and repeatedly aired the scene, it was business as usual.
Producer Seth Markman, who oversees NFL draft coverage for ESPN, said that in the extensive preparation for Sam's possible draft, ''we never had one discussion about, 'What if he's drafted, his partner's there and they kiss?' Honestly, it never came up.''
He suggested a possible generational split over how much it matters.
''When I got home last night and saw the attention (it was receiving), it kind of threw me,'' he said. ''We're a young production crew and quite honestly it was just another moment in the years we've done this.''
''In the truck, we were only saying, 'Wow, this is great emotion here.' No one stepped up and said, 'Oh, wow, do we really want to be showing this?'''
The same holds true for the NFL Network, which had an agreement to show the video taken by ESPN at the San Diego home of Sam's agent and first aired by Disney-owned ESPN.
''We had no discussion on the NFL Network side about how or how much or how little we would show, if or when Michael was selected,'' said Mike Muriano, NFL Network senior coordinating producer.
''We were certainly not blind or deaf to the cultural significance,'' but draft day can be similarly life-changing for all the players and those close to them, he said. ''We try to tap into that with all these kids.''
Timing amplified and extended the story's play on both networks, since it came near the draft's conclusion and the networks could stick with Sam instead of quickly moving on to another pick.
If the display of affection had been edited by ESPN, Markman said, it would have been inconsistent with more than three decades of draft-day coverage that includes a long string of players kissing their girlfriends.
''We're there to document the moment, not make a political statement,'' he said.
GLAAD President and CEO Sarah Kate Ellis said she was thrilled that ESPN and the NFL Network carried the couple's display of affection.
''As media and corporations continue to embrace and support LGBT people, it's almost second nature that there isn't a mechanism to think twice about, 'Could that be controversial, is that overstepping?''' Ellis said.
The growth of gay marriage and news coverage of ceremony-sealing kisses by gay and lesbian couples has become increasingly commonplace. The quick pecks between Sam and his partner, former Missouri varsity swimmer Vito Cammisano - they even shared cake, wedding style - were similar, but different.
Context is everything, and the context is the hyper-manly sport of football, where muscles and toughness reign and, until Sam, the only sexuality openly displayed was hetero.
''The definition of masculinity shifted today, whether consciously or not, because during the hyper-masculine NFL draft, a man kissed another man on national television. The NFL and the media are expanding everyone's consciousness,'' said Wade Davis, a former NFL player who is the executive director of You Can Play Project, an advocacy group aimed at getting homophobia out of sports.
To write off negative reaction as bigotry is to oversimplify it, Davis said.
''People are used to seeing two people being intimate during the NFL draft. Just not these two people,'' said Davis, who is gay. ''It's not necessarily people being homophobic. I think people push back naturally because it's so much out of the norm.''
Sam's embrace of Cammisano was instinctive, not a plotted-out statement, said Howard Bragman, the vice chairman of Reputation.com and public relations expert has been working with Sam.
''Once you make that leap as a gay person (to come out), you want to live your life openly and freely and not use a filter of what's appropriate according to social norms,'' Bragman said Saturday, adding, ''If today is about anything, it's about being able to do that and being authentic.''
Reaction to the video was mostly positive, Muriano said, although he acknowledged that the expression of gay affection is at odds with some people's beliefs. Some online postings deplored the kiss as inappropriate for family viewing; others were even harsher in their distaste.
But it's inevitable, Muriano said, that for football and sports in general ''it's an image that will last.''
Sam, who was not certain to be drafted and was taken with the 249th overall pick out of 256, still has to prove himself to make the team. But he's already helping to make a difference off the field.
When Markman's wife explained to their 7-year-old son that dad was busy working on something that was controversial, Sam's kiss on TV, the boy replied: ''Is it because they're not married?''
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:08 am to TIGERVATO
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It's not about hating Gay people you MORON! It's about keeping your private life, PRIVATE! It has nothing to do with the North and south, it's what's right and wrong. If Michael Sam were an Aggie I guarantee these peckerheads from Missouri would be bashing the Aggies
They are all the rage in L.A. today ... Mizzou fans are in heaven. While the rest of our draftees have already moved-on and are preparing for their NFL careers ... Mizzou fans are just happy to still being talked about the Monday after the draft.
Michael Sam and his girlfriend, Mizzou swimmer Vito Cammisano ... (Goodfellas everywhere are enraged.)
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:11 am to scrooster
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Sam's embrace of Cammisano was instinctive, not a plotted-out statement, said Howard Bragman, the vice chairman of Reputation.com and public relations expert has been working with Sam.
I laughed.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:12 am to scrooster
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Mizzou fans should applaud all of their players, not just the gay ones
if you think Henry Josey, LDW, etc. aren't applauded by Mizzou fans then you don't know many Mizzou fans.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:19 am to scrooster
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Michael Sam and his girlfriend, Mizzou swimmer Vito Cammisano
they're actually a good looking couple, imo.
and another thing on sam- after hearing him in an interview he's got to be one of the most intelligent guys drafted this season or at least the most calm, cool and collected.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:19 am to scrooster
you guys stop picking on MissU
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:22 am to scrooster
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Why are Mizzou fans so pro-gay? Is that what it takes to be singled-out as "tough" and "brave" if you play for Missouri? You gotta be a gay white cake eater?
I applaud you for a great troll, shiny new hook is gonna be working today, your only concern should be not to worry about Michael (the RAM) Sam, he's gonna fail or succeed on his ability to play at the next frickin level aka NFL, oh and you may want to change that free arse whuppins to free arse humpins
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