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What's the next premier program to slip into obscurity?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:59 pm
Previous Cases
MINNESOTA
Year slip began: 1961
Win % before 1961: 69%
Win % after 1961: 45%
Claimed National Championships before 1961: 7
Claimed National Championships after 1961: 0
Conference Championships before 1961: 17
Conference Championships after 1961: 1
Heisman Winners before 1961: 1
Heisman Winners after 1961: 0
ILLINOIS
Year slip began: 1964
Win % before 1964: 60%
Win % after 1964: 43%
Claimed National Championships before 1964: 5
Claimed National Championships after 1964: 0
Conference Championships before 1964: 12
Conference Championships after 1964: 3
Heisman Winners before 1964: 0 (3 finalists)
Heisman Winners after 1964: 0 (1 finalist)
PITTSBURGH
Year slip began: 1983
Win % before 1983: 61%
Win % after 1983: 49%
Claimed National Championships before 1983: 9
Claimed National Championships after 1983: 0
Conference Championships before 1983: Independent but won 7 Lambert-Meadowlands Trophies
Conference Championships after 1983: 2
Heisman Winners before 1983: 1 (11 finalists)
Heisman Winners after 1983: 0 (3 finalists)
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Assuming it is an SEC program, which will be the next to fall in to obscurity?
MINNESOTA
Year slip began: 1961
Win % before 1961: 69%
Win % after 1961: 45%
Claimed National Championships before 1961: 7
Claimed National Championships after 1961: 0
Conference Championships before 1961: 17
Conference Championships after 1961: 1
Heisman Winners before 1961: 1
Heisman Winners after 1961: 0
ILLINOIS
Year slip began: 1964
Win % before 1964: 60%
Win % after 1964: 43%
Claimed National Championships before 1964: 5
Claimed National Championships after 1964: 0
Conference Championships before 1964: 12
Conference Championships after 1964: 3
Heisman Winners before 1964: 0 (3 finalists)
Heisman Winners after 1964: 0 (1 finalist)
PITTSBURGH
Year slip began: 1983
Win % before 1983: 61%
Win % after 1983: 49%
Claimed National Championships before 1983: 9
Claimed National Championships after 1983: 0
Conference Championships before 1983: Independent but won 7 Lambert-Meadowlands Trophies
Conference Championships after 1983: 2
Heisman Winners before 1983: 1 (11 finalists)
Heisman Winners after 1983: 0 (3 finalists)
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Assuming it is an SEC program, which will be the next to fall in to obscurity?
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 6:01 pm
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:00 pm to KSGamecock
[whistles innocently]
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:01 pm to KSGamecock
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:02 pm to KSGamecock
Can think of one right now. Slip began in about 2006, 2007. Starts with a T.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:02 pm to KSGamecock
We would fit on that list real nice
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:03 pm to KSGamecock
I guess Ole Miss never counted - FWIW Tennessee is on life support seeing as they have pretty much the same record as Minn or Illinois of late.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:07 pm to OBReb6
I thought about Mississippi. What year would you use? 1964? Here's what you'd get for that year:
Win % before 1964: 59%
Win % after 1964: 53%
Claimed National Championships before 1964: 3
Claimed National Championships after 1964: 0
Conference Championships before 1964: 6
Conference Championships after 1964: 0
Heisman Winners before 1964: 0 (? finalists)
Heisman Winners after 1964: 0 (? finalists)
I didn't include OM or UT because they're still at least treading water win percentage wise but they're certainly less relevant. Give Tennessee another decade of mediocrity and they'd be on the list. Six years of suck is not a complete drop off. They've still got a 61% win percentage since 1999.
They're my guess though.
Win % before 1964: 59%
Win % after 1964: 53%
Claimed National Championships before 1964: 3
Claimed National Championships after 1964: 0
Conference Championships before 1964: 6
Conference Championships after 1964: 0
Heisman Winners before 1964: 0 (? finalists)
Heisman Winners after 1964: 0 (? finalists)
I didn't include OM or UT because they're still at least treading water win percentage wise but they're certainly less relevant. Give Tennessee another decade of mediocrity and they'd be on the list. Six years of suck is not a complete drop off. They've still got a 61% win percentage since 1999.
They're my guess though.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:11 pm to KSGamecock
And why did we post this on the SEC rant?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:12 pm to Jango Fett
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And why did we post this on the SEC rant?
will someone here Volunteer to explain?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:14 pm to KCM0Tiger
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will someone here Volunteer to explain?
Lulz
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:14 pm to KCM0Tiger
quote:
will someone here Volunteer to explain?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:15 pm to KCM0Tiger
ISWYDT
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:15 pm to Jango Fett
The SEC has more elite programs than any other conference in the country, roughly six depending on which you count. They can't all last and we can assume that at least one will decline. Look at the cases I posted, we can see that this happened with the Big Ten. Two good programs ran to ground.
Completely relevant discussion for the SEC.
Completely relevant discussion for the SEC.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:16 pm to CNB
Tennessee is kind of a sad case. Those 90s squads were legendary.
They're the Nebraska of the SEC.
They're the Nebraska of the SEC.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:17 pm to Jango Fett
I'll be honest....it pisses me off that Mizzou doesn't claim 1960. Undefeated season. Best record at end of that season.
Yet, schools like Illinois claim 5+...school that Mizzou's dominated so bad that said schools refuse to play Mizzou anymore.
The Mizzou Way, right?
Yet, schools like Illinois claim 5+...school that Mizzou's dominated so bad that said schools refuse to play Mizzou anymore.
The Mizzou Way, right?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:18 pm to KSGamecock
Nice edit
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:20 pm to mizzoukills
The Miwho way?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:21 pm to mizzoukills
Has UGA done shite since CVD left?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:23 pm to KSGamecock
I would say USCe, but they've never been worth a shite.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:25 pm to Herman Frisco
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Has UGA done shite since CVD left?
UGA spent 40 years between their first 2 national championships. It's only been 33 years since their last one.
It's been a while, but I'd cut them some slack. They've managed to avoid long-term obscurity.
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