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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:02 pm
Stolen from OT, but pretty big news I thought the RantOT would enjoy reading about.

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After decades of experiments, U.S. Navy scientists believe they may have solved one of the world’s great challenges: how to turn seawater into fuel.

The development of a liquid hydrocarbon fuel could one day relieve the military’s dependence on oil-based fuels and is being heralded as a “game changer” because it could allow military ships to develop their own fuel and stay operational 100 percent of the time, rather than having to refuel at sea.


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The new fuel is initially expected to cost around $3 to $6 per gallon, according to the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory, which has already flown a model aircraft on it.

The Navy’s 289 vessels all rely on oil-based fuel, with the exception of some aircraft carriers and 72 submarines that rely on nuclear propulsion. Moving away from that reliance would free the military from fuel shortages and fluctuations in price.


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The breakthrough came after scientists developed a way to extract carbon dioxide and hydrogen gas from seawater. The gasses are then turned into a fuel by a gas-to-liquids process with the help of catalytic converters.



Incredible if true. The geopolitical implications of this technology could change everything.


Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:06 pm to
Annnnddd the oil companies will say stop that.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:08 pm to
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a gas-to-liquids process


Condensation?
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:08 pm to
It will still take more energy to make the fuel than you get from the fuel
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:10 pm to
isn't that always the case though?
Posted by BamaChemE
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:13 pm to
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It will still take more energy to make the fuel than you get from the fuel


I'm glad some people still understand the second law of thermodynamics
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:14 pm to
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isn't that always the case though?
Until they come up with new laws of physics
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:14 pm to
This is just ease of transportant/consumption and availability of the primary component compared to oil.

ETA: question answered.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 4:16 pm
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:19 pm to
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It will still take more energy to make the fuel than you get from the fuel



And how do you know that?
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Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:23 pm to
Read the thread. and have you ever taken a class in physics
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:32 pm to
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And how do you know that?


The second law of thermodynamics.
Posted by beachreb61
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:41 pm to
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Posted by 870Hog on 4/8 at 4:06 pm to CheeseburgerEddie Annnnddd the oil companies will say stop that. Reply • Options • Back to Top


Really? And who do you think will be supplying the facilities/equipment to do this? Oil companies invest billions in trying to be the first with a breakthrough technology like this. Some folks just don't understand capitalism.
Posted by ColonelRebsLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:01 pm to
Nuclear Fusion. Nuff' said.
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:05 pm to
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Nuclear Fusion. Nuff' said.


Currently only achievable by using the center of a star or atomic bomb.
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:06 pm to
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The Navy’s 289 vessels all rely on oil-based fuel


Well this is false
Posted by finestfirst79
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:19 pm to
Nice selective editing.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:21 pm to
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with the exception of some aircraft carriers and 72 submarines
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:24 pm to
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Currently only achievable by using the center of a star or atomic bomb.
You can build a fusion reactor in your garage. It just uses more energy than it creates
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:41 am to
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with the exception of some aircraft carriers and 72 submarines





The last Kitty Hawk retired in January 2009 so he only missed by 5 years.



Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 9:46 am to
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It just uses more energy than it creates


why do you keep saying this?
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