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At the end of regulation in a 20-20 tie, head coach Marc Trestman
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:17 am
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:17 am
of the Bears decided to attempt a 66 yard field goal for a win against the Vikings. For their part, the Vikings lined up Cordarelle Patterson for a return, who fielded the ball and was tackled on about his own 30 yard line. The Vikings eventually won in overtime.
Was that a "blunder" on Trestman's part?
Was that a "blunder" on Trestman's part?
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:19 am to Rex
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attempt a 66 yard field goal
Yes
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:23 am to Rex
A couple of yards longer, and a yard to the left and it's 1985 all over again.
I know. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.
I know. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:26 am to son of arlo
Saban's decision was absolutely proper. You can tell by his players lined up on the sidelines with their arms locked in anticipation that they felt it was the correct thing to do, also.
I don't like the lying little prick, but I see the hindsight criticism as desperation to tarnish him in any way possible.
I don't like the lying little prick, but I see the hindsight criticism as desperation to tarnish him in any way possible.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:29 am to Rex
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Saban's decision was absolutely proper
Saban said he sees the guy kicking 60 yarders in practice all the time. I think I would have made the same decision myself.
Dayum! Agreeing with Rex.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:30 am to Rex
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the hindsight criticism
I'll bookmark this post.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:31 am to son of arlo
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I think I would have made the same decision myself.
So would have everybody else, despite what they say now.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:36 am to Rex
In Saban's situation, he made the right decision. The thought of a guy returning a short kick 100 yards in that situation is less than .00001%.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:37 am to Rex
I thought the blunder was not putting in a few skill players that you could count on to at least have a shot to make a tackle if a return happened
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:43 am to Dan
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I thought the blunder was not putting in a few skill players that you could count on to at least have a shot to make a tackle if a return happened
This is probably the main mistake made here. ODB pulled it off earlier this year, but you don't see that return happen a lot, successfully at least. Saban just felt better about a FG attempt (not sure why considering what had happened already) than a hail mary. Worst case scenario was a miss and OT. Can't always gameplan that crazy Auburn voodoo.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:51 am to Rex
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Was that a "blunder" on Trestman's part?
Without question
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:53 am to Rex
Would have never happened to LSU. Unlike Adam Griffith, Tiger kicker Colby Delahoussaye doesn't get his clock cleaned and walks down the return man before he can score.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:56 am to Dan
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I thought the blunder was not putting in a few skill players
I'd be more concerned with a blocked FG than a straight return. Long FGs are kicked at a lower angle. inexpereinced blockers may make the wrong read and give up a block return for a fg. Which probably happens more often. So who has the stats on % of short FGs being returned for a TD? That will be the true test if this is a worthwhile risk? I think the % returned is quite high. I've only seen the attempted return a handful of times and I can recall 3 going the distance.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 6:57 am to moneyg
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Without question
Did JD Roberts blunder when he sent in Tom Dempsey to attempt a 63 yarder to defeat the Lions?
Posted on 12/2/13 at 7:01 am to Rex
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attempt a 66 yard field goal
Yes. A 66 yard field goal attempt is absolutely retarded unless you're playing in Denver with Sebastian Janikowski as your kicker.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 7:03 am to Rex
I don't think covering field goals is part of the process. First of all, after the kick, none of the Bama players starting working downfield. I recall that as a high school players, anytime we tried a field goal attempt longer than 40 yards, we were taught to remind each other, "Cover like a punt". Obviously, my high school coaches were better at teaching detail than Nick Saban.
Secondly, did you see what the Bama guys did when they finally decided to cover downfield? They ran straight down the field, side by side. They might as well have been holding hands. Big, slow lineman rumbling down the middle of the field, while the returner made a break for the sidelines. Field position didn't matter at that point, so the need to sprint down the field was not as important as the need to spread out and contain the returner and keep him bottled in.
Secondly, did you see what the Bama guys did when they finally decided to cover downfield? They ran straight down the field, side by side. They might as well have been holding hands. Big, slow lineman rumbling down the middle of the field, while the returner made a break for the sidelines. Field position didn't matter at that point, so the need to sprint down the field was not as important as the need to spread out and contain the returner and keep him bottled in.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 7:04 am to Rex
Saban's blunder came two series before that when he went for it on 4th down at the Auburn 13 to go up by two scores. I couldn't believe he didn't kick the ball. That stupidity was only matched by Auburn going for it the previous series.
If Saban didn't try the FG from 30 because of previous kicking problems, he shouldn't have tried a 57 yarder.
If Saban didn't try the FG from 30 because of previous kicking problems, he shouldn't have tried a 57 yarder.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 7:06 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Saban's blunder came two series before that when he went for it on 4th down at the Auburn 13 to go up by two scores.
Absolutely. That was unquestionably dumb.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 7:11 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Saban's blunder came two series before that when he went for it on 4th down at the Auburn 13 to go up by two scores. I couldn't believe he didn't kick the ball. That stupidity was only matched by Auburn going for it the previous series.
This ^ is what he should be questioned for, not the 57 yarder.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 7:11 am to Rex
Can you blame him for not trusting Cade Foster in that situation? The kid's gone 0-fer in the two biggest regular season games of his career. I wouldn't have any confidence that he would have made that kick either.
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