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"The Book of Manning".....

Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:29 am
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:29 am
ANybody else see this yet?....

Was expecting just a highlight reel of Mannings winning games and being compared to their father with some old home movie footage spliced in, but that wasn't it at all.....

It's basically the Archie Mannning is a good-hearted quiet Christian, and a humble SOuthern gentleman story. Had always respected him just by the way he carries himself, but had no idea.....


Very inspirational.


P.S. You ever notice how if it's a story about something POSITIVE that is uniquely Southern.......that the media always downplays the fact that it's a Southern story?.......and tries to package it as an "american" story instead? Yet...........if it's something politically incorrect and negative and it comes from the South, it's portrayed as just your typical day in the KKK boogie-man infested, undeducated, snake-handling, backwards hateful SOuth?

fricking pathetic.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:33 am to
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Archie Mannning


Not disagreeing with the overall point of your post, but wasn't this the same Archie Manning that pitched a hissy fit when San Diego wanted to draft Eli?
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26172 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:36 am to
Yea it was a great special. Highest respect for the Mannings.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:37 am to
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wasn't this the same Archie Manning that pitched a hissy fit when San Diego wanted to draft Eli?

So what?


Have you even seen the movie?

I'm sure that Archie Manning has made plenty of mistakes in life, but there's a different message in the movie that I'm guessing flew over your head...........
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:39 am to
It was a very good show
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:39 am to
I really enjoyed it and now you mention it they did try to make it a national event when in all seriousness all this was far bigger in scale and importance in the south. Still, I enjoyed the hell out of it and I didn't realize how little I actually knew about Archie
Posted by FreshPrinceofDubtown
Member since Mar 2013
40 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:41 am to
Given that he spent 10 years eating dirt for the Aints, I don't blame him for wanting his kids to be in a better position to succeed in their careers.

In fact, I don't understand why most elite players don't go that route. If you're going in the top five, you're going to go to a struggling team and have loads of expectations placed upon you at 22 years old and having zero familiarity with the level of athleticism present from top-to-bottom in the pros.

Better to be a mid/late first rounder, go to a solid team, and then pick up the payday down the road once your rookie contract expires. Hell, it ain't like late round money is bad money anyway.
This post was edited on 9/26/13 at 11:42 am
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:46 am to
ONe thing that struck me is how they kept their faith out of the movie....even though it's at the root of everything they do. And how, in real life, they don't beat it over people's heads.

The Tebow etc approach is far less effective................than the humble, mind your own damn businees, quiet Christianity of the Mannings, imo.

Much better to lead by quiet example, than to kneel down like an idiot for the cameras and cry to God because you scored a fricking touchdown.


Respect.
This post was edited on 9/26/13 at 11:47 am
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:49 am to
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So what?


Just asking a question. Simmer down and quit coming off like a jackass.

quote:

Have you even seen the movie?


No, I have not. I'm sure it's a great. Again, just posing a question. I happened to think that it was a little unprofessional to handle that they way he did, but I do understand why it bothered him given his own career.

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I'm sure that Archie Manning has made plenty of mistakes in life, but there's a different message in the movie that I'm guessing flew over your head...........


Indeed, we all do. But, again, I haven't seen the movie. Wasn't commenting on the movie or its message.

Chill. The frick. Out.
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:51 am to
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than to kneel down like an idiot for the cameras and cry to God because you scored a fricking touchdown.


Note that often times Teebow was as far as he could get from everyone on the sidelines when he did this. The cameras just follow him wherever he goes. I prefer the "Manning way" too, but the press is as much to blame as TT was.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:53 am to
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now you mention it they did try to make it a national event when in all seriousness all this was far bigger in scale and importance in the south.

Not just that, but if you take away the football part.............I know hundreds of Archie Mannings.

I realize that there are good people all over the world, but.........it's not a coincidence which corner of the world produces more of these types of men.......despite what the media wants you to believe.

Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:53 am to
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ONe thing that struck me is how they kept their faith out of the movie....even though it's at the root of everything they do. And how, in real life, they don't beat it over people's heads.

The Tebow etc approach is far less effective................than the humble, mind your own damn businees, quiet Christianity of the Mannings, imo.

Much better to lead by quiet example, than to kneel down like an idiot for the cameras and cry to God because you scored a fricking touchdown.


Respect.


Preach man, preach
Posted by Usey
EC
Member since Jul 2013
484 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:54 am to
Archie Manning plays a good-hearted quiet Christian, and a humble SOuthern gentleman on TV

Maybe that is what you meant to say
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:54 am to
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Not disagreeing with the overall point of your post, but wasn't this the same Archie Manning that pitched a hissy fit when San Diego wanted to draft Eli?


I got this from another webiste when I went searching for why Archie and Eli did that. I have no idea the validity of it but it is plausible.

quote:

This goes back to 1998 when Peyton and Ryan Leaf were the top two picks. They were pretty close, so they kept in contact after they were drafted (Peyton to the Colts, Ryan to the Chargers). Bill Polian and the Colts did everything that they could to help Manning adjust to the NFL, such as helping him move into town. That way, he can focus solely on football. However, Peyton was shocked to hear from Ryan Leaf, who told him about how the Chargers made no effort to help him get used to the city, so he had so much on his plate. Word of this reaches Archie Manning who decides "No son of mine will ever play for that organization", and the famous Eli tantrum was born
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:55 am to
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the press is as much to blame as TT was.

Probably true........
Posted by Firewind
South Ga
Member since May 2012
922 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 12:00 pm to
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wasn't this the same Archie Manning that pitched a hissy fit when San Diego wanted to draft Eli?


Would you want your son to play for that cesspool of a team/city/extreme northern mexican province?

Fwiw, NYC isn't much better though.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 12:08 pm to
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but the press is as much to blame as TT was.

I'm not a christian but I had to go to their school forever and one verse I remember was saying that a true follower of god prays behind closed doors, away from others, as to not flaunt their faith and thus exhibit pride from a perceived superiority. Tebow did all that kneeing shite for the world to see. Sure, may have been talking to god or something, but there's no need to make a show of it.

I'm sure I'll irritate some but I always figure if you're like that then it'd be more effective to be more like Manning and less like Tebow

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5"When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 6"But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 12:08 pm to
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Would you want your son to play for that cesspool of a team/city/extreme northern mexican province?


It's the principle. And Phillip Rivers seems to be doing just fine. I've got no dog in the fight. I just recall it being pretty unprecedented that a player's father would come out and basically shaft the draft system that is in place for the purpose of (trying) to maintain parity in the league.

Might as well screw the draft from now on and let all draftees just choose where they want to play, whatever their reasons are.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 12:11 pm to
I think that's all true but I figure in Archie's case he cared less about the integrity of the league and more about his sons. Not saying it's right but kinda hard to say you wouldn't want the same for your son.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 12:15 pm to
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I think that's all true but I figure in Archie's case he cared less about the integrity of the league and more about his sons. Not saying it's right but kinda hard to say you wouldn't want the same for your son.


You are ABSOLUTELY correct. No argument there and for that reasoning, I get it.
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