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who else was considered when we hired barbee
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:56 am
Posted on 2/27/13 at 8:56 am
I remember tubby smith being a long shot but who else
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Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:03 am to Aujb
I remeber talk of Tubby Smith (think he turned us down) and Chuck Person. Think Barbee was their guy after Tubby.
Someone correct me, if that's wrong.
Someone correct me, if that's wrong.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:05 am to Aujb
Another possible candidate is Texas-El Paso coach Tony Barbee. UTEP lost to Butler in the tournament Thursday. Another possible candidate is Missouri coach Mike Anderson, whose team plays Clemson today. Anderson is a Birmingham native and former UAB coach.
Other candidates could include former Auburn player Chuck Person, who is a special assistant with the Los Angeles Lakers; and Sam Mitchell, a former NBA coach of the year who is from Columbus, Ga.
Other candidates could include former Auburn player Chuck Person, who is a special assistant with the Los Angeles Lakers; and Sam Mitchell, a former NBA coach of the year who is from Columbus, Ga.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 10:24 am to blzr
It ain't the coach. Auburn basketball is just cursed. I don't think Coach K could fix Auburn basketball. In Auburn basketball history, there has only been two coaches with winning conference records and only one coach with a career record significantly over .500.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:44 am to augrad00
man, shut up... cliff ellis (think about that... CLIFF ELLIS) put together a good program... made the NCAA tournament three times and several NIT tournaments.
20 years ago, Auburn and Florida basketball were on the same level... the difference is they hired a Pitino assistant who turned out to be one of the best coaches in the game and we've had a couple of borderline idiots running our program over the same timeframe.
It's coaching... pure and simple... sure, it's harder to recruit here than it is a lot of places... but is it harder than Gonzaga was 15 years ago?... or Butler 10 years ago?... or any of the other countless programs that have kicked our skulls in on the way to the NCAAT like Murray State or Western Kentucky or MTSU?
20 years ago, Auburn and Florida basketball were on the same level... the difference is they hired a Pitino assistant who turned out to be one of the best coaches in the game and we've had a couple of borderline idiots running our program over the same timeframe.
It's coaching... pure and simple... sure, it's harder to recruit here than it is a lot of places... but is it harder than Gonzaga was 15 years ago?... or Butler 10 years ago?... or any of the other countless programs that have kicked our skulls in on the way to the NCAAT like Murray State or Western Kentucky or MTSU?
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 11:46 am
Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:54 am to lowspark12
Cliff was also always in NCAA trouble. We can't play by the same rules right now that Cliff Ellis could.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:14 pm to lowspark12
Cliff Ellis is a slightly better coach than Barbee but he never had to recruit under Under Armour or under our current Komara ban. We would be slightly better but still not an NCAA tourney level team. There are a handful of coaches today that could win at Auburn in our current situation but unfortunately none of them would consider the job.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:58 pm to marshallcotiger
Still don't think the recruiting "barriers" are really that big of a deal. Shaq, Jordan, and BGJ were part of a good class by Auburn standards.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:41 pm to WarSlamEagle
This. If we fire Barbee, we're rebuilding. If we don't, we're rebuilding.
I just don't see Barbee being successful here in the long run. I also don't think he really wants to be here.
I really wanted Chuck Person when this hire was made. But I thought Barbee would be good. Looks like I was wrong.
I just don't see Barbee being successful here in the long run. I also don't think he really wants to be here.
I really wanted Chuck Person when this hire was made. But I thought Barbee would be good. Looks like I was wrong.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:59 pm to Lee County Tiger
At the end of the day, we hired a Calipari guy and won't let him operate like a Calipari guy. Part of Barbee's coaching problem is that he's tired and frustrated with the situation here. That has filtered down to the players and fans. It probably would be best to change at this point because I don't see it getting any better. I don't want Jacobs involved in another hire either though. I just hope the next guy knows what he's dealing with when he takes the job.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:27 pm to Smoke7024
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At the end of the day, we hired a Calipari guy and won't let him operate like a Calipari guy. Part of Barbee's coaching problem is that he's tired and frustrated with the situation here. That has filtered down to the players and fans. It probably would be best to change at this point because I don't see it getting any better. I don't want Jacobs involved in another hire either though. I just hope the next guy knows what he's dealing with when he takes the job.
This. Only Auburn would hire a coach that his best asset is his ability to recruit and then put up barriers that make it difficult to recruit around. If we aren't going to remove a lot of those obstacles our next coach needs to be a guy known for evaluating and developing talent that fits into a system.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:38 pm to Smoke7024
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Cliff was also always in NCAA trouble. We can't play by the same rules right now that Cliff Ellis could.
There's ONE GUY we can't have contact with... an AAU coach in Huntsville. You mean to tell me this one guy has kept Auburn from stockpiling talent over the last 10 years?... that's a bunch of bullsh*t. Disassociating from Alvin Kamara has absolutely nothing to do with the terrible product we're putting on the court.
And what kind of jerseys did we wear under cliff ellis?... don't thing they were nike. Maryland's association with Under Armor has sure kept them from being good this year... beating Duke and all.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:44 pm to lowspark12
Well, the restrictions and the open checkbook Ellis had. BTW, it's laughable to compare our basketball program to Maryland's.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:45 pm to Smoke7024
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laughable to compare our basketball program to Maryland's
so is it the program or the recruiting restrictions?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:47 pm to lowspark12
I wonder why Gary Williams wouldn't go Under Armour? The answer to your question is both.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:47 pm to lowspark12
We wore Russell jerseys until 2006.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:50 pm to marshallcotiger
I know next to nothing about basketball, but I have tried to follow it more in the past couple of years. What are the barriers beyond what I always hear (poor fan support/tradition, poor recruiting area, something to do with the Under Armor contract, football school)?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:21 pm to lowspark12
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Maryland's association with Under Armor has sure kept them from being good this year...
Maryland has won a recent national championship in basketball and after having played in at least the NIT every season since 1992 including 12 straight NCAA tourney appearances they are coming off back to back seasons without a post season invite. They are also still on the outside looking in to make the NCAA tourney this season.
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:50 pm to marshallcotiger
Maryland's slide under GW began way before their association with UA... williams refused (or was too lazy) to play the AAU recruiting game.
They're better now since his retirement, and are recruiting just fine with under armor on their jerseys. UA is also pumping tons of cash into the basketball/AAU arena and will soon be on the level of the other major shoe companies.
They're better now since his retirement, and are recruiting just fine with under armor on their jerseys. UA is also pumping tons of cash into the basketball/AAU arena and will soon be on the level of the other major shoe companies.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 4:12 pm to lowspark12
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Maryland's slide under GW began way before their association with UA... williams refused (or was too lazy) to play the AAU recruiting game.
He won the ACC in 2010 and was named ACC coach of the year too. His slide(I'd love for Auburn to have a slide like his) imo had much more to do with his relationship with their AD and the fact he is almost 73.
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UA is also pumping tons of cash into the basketball/AAU arena and will soon be on the level of the other major shoe companies.
I agree with this.
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