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SEC Officials: Alabama Bias?
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:05 am
Below are the NCAA rankings for 2000-2011. I'll let you decide and make your own inferences. Also note I've taken the liberty of reducing the scope of this to SEC ranking rather than national ranking to narrow the context.
Fewest Penalties Per Game (NCAA.org)
Year / SEC Rank / Notes
2011 / 1
2010 / 1
2009 / 2 / UT #1 but played 2 less games (63 vs 69) / SECCG (SEC refs) - 1 penalty / MNC (Big East refs) - 5 Penalties
2008 / 1
2007 / 1
2006 / 6 / Miami Dolphins #12
2005 / 5 / Miami Dolphins #26
2004 / 3 / LSU #5
2003 / 4 / LSU #7
2002 / 12 / LSU #6
2001 / 9 / LSU #2
2000 / 9 / LSU #8
I've included the LSU ranking above for transparency to show the common denominator of Nick Saban as head coach. LSU's average ranking (rounding up) was #6 under Nick Saban, not bad, but not great either. Alabama's average ranking under the same coach is #1.
Now for my tinfoil hattery:
Did the NFL suddenly turn Nick Saban into a master of discipline to where all of his teams are now just amazingly well coached to never hold, interfere, jump off-sides, etc? Or...is there some other more nefarious bias at work here?
Naturally, it gets even worse at the SEC HQ (BDS), through 3 games at BDS there have a total of 6 flags thrown on Bama for a total of 39 yards versus 12 for the opponents at 78 yards. As a comparison, in Alabama's opener, Big 12 officials flagged Bama 7 times for 55 yards eclipsing the totals at BDS over 3 full games thus far this year.
Let me also say that I do not think nor believe any Alabama booster, coach, or other university official has paid any of these officials...that's for Auburn.
ETA: While not completely relevant, since the majority seem to point to coaching (which is the logical explanation, I've included Saban's Dolphin's teams to show the disparity between his previous stops and his time with Alabama.)
Fewest Penalties Per Game (NCAA.org)
Year / SEC Rank / Notes
2011 / 1
2010 / 1
2009 / 2 / UT #1 but played 2 less games (63 vs 69) / SECCG (SEC refs) - 1 penalty / MNC (Big East refs) - 5 Penalties
2008 / 1
2007 / 1
2006 / 6 / Miami Dolphins #12
2005 / 5 / Miami Dolphins #26
2004 / 3 / LSU #5
2003 / 4 / LSU #7
2002 / 12 / LSU #6
2001 / 9 / LSU #2
2000 / 9 / LSU #8
I've included the LSU ranking above for transparency to show the common denominator of Nick Saban as head coach. LSU's average ranking (rounding up) was #6 under Nick Saban, not bad, but not great either. Alabama's average ranking under the same coach is #1.
Now for my tinfoil hattery:
Did the NFL suddenly turn Nick Saban into a master of discipline to where all of his teams are now just amazingly well coached to never hold, interfere, jump off-sides, etc? Or...is there some other more nefarious bias at work here?
Naturally, it gets even worse at the SEC HQ (BDS), through 3 games at BDS there have a total of 6 flags thrown on Bama for a total of 39 yards versus 12 for the opponents at 78 yards. As a comparison, in Alabama's opener, Big 12 officials flagged Bama 7 times for 55 yards eclipsing the totals at BDS over 3 full games thus far this year.
Let me also say that I do not think nor believe any Alabama booster, coach, or other university official has paid any of these officials...that's for Auburn.
ETA: While not completely relevant, since the majority seem to point to coaching (which is the logical explanation, I've included Saban's Dolphin's teams to show the disparity between his previous stops and his time with Alabama.)
This post was edited on 10/2/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to InLesWeTrust
Bama is one disciplined team.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to InLesWeTrust
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Did the NFL suddenly turn Nick Saban into a master of discipline to where all of his teams are now just amazingly well coached to never hold, interfere, jump off-sides, etc
Bingo
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to InLesWeTrust
LSU fans bitching about refs?
Shocked.
Shocked.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to InLesWeTrust
Now this, I will fap to.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:06 am to InLesWeTrust
Best talent in the country + best coaching staff + most discipline = fewest penalties.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:07 am to InLesWeTrust
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InLesWeTrust
At first I was
But...
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Let me also say that I do not think nor believe any Alabama booster, coach, or other university official has paid any of these officials...that's for Auburn
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:08 am to Tuscaloosa
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Best talent in the country
Some don't seem to understand that when a player is better than the guy he's lining up against, there is no need to commit penalties. Just whip his arse the old fashioned way
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:09 am to InLesWeTrust
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2004 / 3 / LSU #5 2003 / 4 / LSU #7 2002 / 12 / LSU #6 2001 / 9 / LSU #2 2000 / 9 / LSU #8
So what you're saying is that Nick Saban teams have always been in the top 10?
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:09 am to InLesWeTrust
Bias? If there was a bias, why were Bama's opponents penalized less than any team in the conference last year?
eta... and 12th this year?
eta... and 12th this year?
This post was edited on 10/2/12 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:09 am to Tuscaloosa
Dre Kirkpatrick is filled with discipline.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:11 am to InLesWeTrust
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Nick Saban a master of discipline
The Process.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:12 am to pivey14
omgggggzzz a ref looked behind him!! thatz against the rulessss!!!!!111
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:14 am to InLesWeTrust
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Alabama
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never get called for holding
FIFY
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:15 am to Funky Tide 8
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omgggggzzz a ref looked behind him!! thatz against the rulessss!!!!!111
Meh. If you watch the whole sequence, it's a pretty shitty circumstance. Not saying it's necessarily indicative of anything, but I would not just roll your eyes at it.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 11:15 am to InLesWeTrust
I'm curious to see what Les Miles' rank is on penalties as the LSU coach (2005 - 2011). Could you post those?
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