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Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:46 pm to SwayzeCrazy
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:46 pm to SwayzeCrazy
The Weatherspoon kid that is committed to them is supposedly pretty good as well.
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:00 pm to Sports_Guy007
So Pank has admitted he is a committed European-centric soccer metrosexual.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:01 pm to Sports_Guy007
Spoon and Malik and Moody.
I'm getting light headed.
I'm getting light headed.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:53 pm to matthew25
So, if Howland goes to MSU, does that put pressure on Kennedy?
Posted on 3/22/15 at 1:07 pm to Sports_Guy007
I hope it does. We need to hire a good recruiter IMO. It just seems like we aren't even in the park with big recruits.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 1:20 pm to SwayzeCrazy
We should get some new uniforms for the new arena.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:41 am to SwayzeCrazy
Well, CBS is reporting that Ben Howland may be finalizing a deal with State. If true, this shows me that we have hope. If that dumpster fire of a program can get a name brand, high profile coach, then we will be able to upgrade Kennedy when the time comes. He has earned next year, but I don't think he needs another extension at the moment.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:01 am to Sports_Guy007
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The Weatherspoon kid that is committed to them is supposedly pretty good as well.
Weatherspoon is a signee. I would bet he sticks after the interview 24/7 did with him.
Howland landing Malik should help with him sticking as well. Tookie Brown is out though, which gives us the spot we need for Malik.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:19 am to DynastyDawg
Still don't think Malik comes. You guys roster is pretty bad. Ours is no show pony, but outside of Sword it's pretty barren at the moment. Howland would have to pull a Kennedy and clean house. I still think UK or LSU is the leader.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:55 am to Sports_Guy007
I don't think the LSU or Kansas side has viewed State as a threat, but hiring Howland would make things more interesting
Still, he'd only stay one year and accomplish what, helping State to the NIT? The SEC is going to be stacked next season, so there's no way State would make the tournament
Still, he'd only stay one year and accomplish what, helping State to the NIT? The SEC is going to be stacked next season, so there's no way State would make the tournament
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:38 am to Sports_Guy007
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You guys roster is pretty bad
That's just not true. We have some very talented, athletic players, we just have had zero offensive game plan.
We ranked well in defensive and rebounding categories, but Ray's strategy was always, play defense and rebound and the offense will take care of itself.
That will change next year and I think with the right coaching we have a lot of good pieces.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:41 am to tigerbait2010
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The SEC is going to be stacked next season, so there's no way State would make the tournament
I honestly don't understand how you come to that conclusion.
Kentucky is Kentucky. You have to imagine Florida will make its way back to the top. Other than that, you have Arkansas which is anybody's guess at the beginning of each season. LSU has plenty of talent, but it's not like y'all have had any lack of talent for several years now. Will UGA have another good year? Maybe?
I just don't see the SEC as a conference where it is impossible to make a big jump.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:45 am to DynastyDawg
Sword was the only player that would start at any other school. Y'all have nothing to work with.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 9:50 am to DynastyDawg
Humor me if you will and name said "good pieces".
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:05 am to Sports_Guy007
Craig Sword is the obvious name.
Other than that you have Gavin Ware, who can be a really good big man if we could put together any amount of consistent outside shooting. The reason he hasn't put up good numbers consistently is because most teams didn't even challenge our outside shot. Three people in the paint against our 1 for the past few years has really made it difficult for him. The talent is there.
Ready is a serviceable enough point guard, he just has to be more aggressive. You can see it in the games where he scored double digits in 9 out of 10 games posting 18 twice. Those were in SEC play.
Demetrius Houston is definitely going to be a big piece moving forward. Pushing 6'8" as a wing player with huge hops, he can be a guy that definitely makes an impact.
Who knows if Fred Thomas will ever be what he was at Jim Hill again. He is a head case. Ndoye has a chance, and so does Black. Obviously they need some development but the ceiling is higher for Ndoye I think. Hopefully Dunlap will be the shooter he was in high school.
Hopefully Weatherspoon turns out to be the player that most think he will be. The kid is legit.
I think the development and potential for several players depend on the type of offense Howland will run. You can't put some of these guys who are just athletes without a lot of basketball IQ in a motion offense. You have to let them play their game, which is why Stansbury had such a good run. He just let them go out there and play, without restrictions. Which was good and bad.
Other than that you have Gavin Ware, who can be a really good big man if we could put together any amount of consistent outside shooting. The reason he hasn't put up good numbers consistently is because most teams didn't even challenge our outside shot. Three people in the paint against our 1 for the past few years has really made it difficult for him. The talent is there.
Ready is a serviceable enough point guard, he just has to be more aggressive. You can see it in the games where he scored double digits in 9 out of 10 games posting 18 twice. Those were in SEC play.
Demetrius Houston is definitely going to be a big piece moving forward. Pushing 6'8" as a wing player with huge hops, he can be a guy that definitely makes an impact.
Who knows if Fred Thomas will ever be what he was at Jim Hill again. He is a head case. Ndoye has a chance, and so does Black. Obviously they need some development but the ceiling is higher for Ndoye I think. Hopefully Dunlap will be the shooter he was in high school.
Hopefully Weatherspoon turns out to be the player that most think he will be. The kid is legit.
I think the development and potential for several players depend on the type of offense Howland will run. You can't put some of these guys who are just athletes without a lot of basketball IQ in a motion offense. You have to let them play their game, which is why Stansbury had such a good run. He just let them go out there and play, without restrictions. Which was good and bad.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:15 am to DynastyDawg
Meh, honestly I like Sword and Ware, but the other guys just didn't look like D1 material. Not saying that they won't develop, but right now I only see two legit guys.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:25 am to Sports_Guy007
Well, that's why I said pieces. I don't think we have an abundance of high level talent, but I do think we have enough guys to compete. With Howland, he brings instant credibility in recruiting and we have the facilities to sell themselves.
It's an exciting hire to say the least and I think we can get back to our winning ways shortly.
It's an exciting hire to say the least and I think we can get back to our winning ways shortly.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:35 am to DynastyDawg
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I honestly don't understand how you come to that conclusion.
Kentucky is Kentucky. You have to imagine Florida will make its way back to the top. Other than that, you have Arkansas which is anybody's guess at the beginning of each season. LSU has plenty of talent, but it's not like y'all have had any lack of talent for several years now. Will UGA have another good year? Maybe?
I just don't see the SEC as a conference where it is impossible to make a big jum
Texas A&M is getting the #2 recruiting class and most of its starters returning
auburn is bringing in a top 15 class
Kennedy always finds underrated talent along with a strong nucleus coming back
Tennessee is very well coached
South Carolina is getting most of its team back and a top 25 class
Vanderbilt is getting most of its starters back with a top recruiting class
alabama has good talent and could make a splash hire
Mark Fox always has UGA playing good basketball, regardless of the talent level
Arkansas will be top 25
Florida is loaded
Kentucky will be Kentucky
LSU is getting most of its team back along with a top 5 class. please spare me the "no shortage of talent", as LSU was 6-deep TOPS
The SEC will have 4 top 25 teams. A&M and Vanderbilt will at worst be bubble teams. Then you have Ole Miss and Georgia, who always seem to maximize their talent. Mississippi State is not going to the NCAA tournament, even if State somehow manages to land Newman
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:47 am to tigerbait2010
Florida will lose Donovan though. So you have to factor in that.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:50 am to SwayzeCrazy
We've heard that every year though. Florida is finally renovating the O'Connel Center, and he makes great money right now. He coaches at a football school with 100% job security in a talent rich state. Donovan is also well on his way to putting up Coach K numbers in the win column
I just don't see it, but I guess you never know. He has it made in Gainesville, though I hate Gainesville
I just don't see it, but I guess you never know. He has it made in Gainesville, though I hate Gainesville
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