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Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:35 pm to
Posted by SwayzeBalla
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:35 pm to
Yeah, I don't think he knows what he's talking about.
Posted by olemiss5931
Augusta, GA
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 12:09 am to
Yea Sumrall was a pretty horrible public school program. They only won 67 games in a row
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 12:23 am to
Have any of those guys done anything in college? Knight hasn't done anything of note for y'all and Barron probably wishes he wouldn've taken that 3rd round money. Instead he rides pine for USM.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 12:25 am
Posted by olemiss5931
Augusta, GA
Member since Apr 2012
2197 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 12:57 am to
Yea they have not produced on the D1 level like I thought they would. Knight could have a chance to get some playing time this year, but thats about it
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
812 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:21 am to
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Madison Central is public and produces D1 prospects on the reg. I don't know what he was thinkin with that.
A few examples don't represent the rest. MC is one of the good programs in MS that good players will transfer to because of the baseball program. They get some of the Jackson kids that are serious about playing. MS as a whole is known by scouts as being poor in terms of development, and I'm only speaking in terms of development.

There is evidence in the types of high end players MS has been producing. Most of MS's top prospects in the past few years have graded out very well in athletic tools but are defined as very raw with a relative risk of high to very high. Of the scouting reports I pulled most are very similar to Senquez Golson: outfielders with 80/80 or 70/80 speed with below average to plus hitting (30/50-40/70) and below average power (20/30-30/40).

Billy Hamilton
Senquez Golson
D.J. Davis
Anthony Alford
Taiwan Easterling
Silento Sayles
Ryan Bolden
Deshun Dixon
Rashun Dixon
Wendall Fairley
Justin Reed

All of these are high risk players that fit the raw talent MS stereotype. All are CF/OF either ranked 1st in the state or taken in the top 10 rounds (supplemental included). They make up 11 of the 16 MS high school kids taken in these rounds since 2005.

Again, I'm not taking shots at MS baseball teams. Development in MS isn't as good as a lot of other states mainly because Mississippi public school funding isn't very good. It affects the budgets of baseball programs compared to other states.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 6:54 am
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:13 am to
Are you saying MS public high schools don't produce much D1 talent or high draft pick talent?
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 9:14 am
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:06 am to
Public school ball in Desoto County seems to have been pretty good lately. I remember playing against Aaron Greenwood while he was playing at Lewisburg.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:00 am to
Tupelo was ranked #1 in the country by Baseball America in 2008, I believe.
Posted by POCKET
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:20 am to
New Hope was ranked #1 around the time I started playing high school baseball. West lauderdale was ranked #1 when we played them in the playoffs 07.

MS has some decent teams and players, just not much depth IMO
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
6982 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Billy Hamilton
Senquez Golson
D.J. Davis
Anthony Alford
Taiwan Easterling
Silento Sayles
Ryan Bolden
Deshun Dixon
Rashun Dixon
Wendall Fairley
Justin Reed


Billy Hamilton is the only one of the above-listed players to do anything. Every other player is either a sub .220 hitter in Rookie Ball or back home already.
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11972 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:05 pm to
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Tupelo was ranked #1 in the country by Baseball America in 2008, I believe.


As was Northwest Rankin around 05.
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
812 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 4:43 pm to
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Are you saying MS public high schools don't produce much D1 talent or high draft pick talent?
I'm saying the development of players isn't as good when compared to other states. The amount of talent MS produces on both levels is about average. The type of high end talent isn't (raw athletes). MS kids come out less polished than most other states in the southeast.

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Every other player is either a sub .220 hitter in Rookie Ball or back home already.
Hence why they were all graded as high relative risks. It doesn't change the fact they make up most the state's most highly viewed prospects in recent years.

This is a scouting report quote from Mississippi's highest rated high school prospect in the last 10 years (D.J. Davis). It's pretty standard for a lot of MS prospects: "Relative Risk: High. Extremely toolsy and athletic, but that comes with extreme rawness and risk."
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11972 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

This is a scouting report quote from Mississippi's highest rated high school prospect in the last 10 years (D.J. Davis). It's pretty standard for a lot of MS prospects: "Relative Risk: High. Extremely toolsy and athletic, but that comes with extreme rawness and risk."


I coached a team that played Stone Co a few times, and there is no way he comes close to the MLB.
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
812 posts
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:14 pm to
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't. The scouts thought he had good enough tools to go 17th overall though. That's the highest a MS HS kid has been picked since Kirk Presley in '93.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:16 am to
I think he's talking about the development. States like Georgia and Virginia have loads of talent and coaches which is why so many top players come from there. I coached two years of ball in Mississippi and saw some talent but not as much as travel teams from some other states.
Posted by Col Reb is my mascot
Member since Feb 2012
4165 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:57 pm to
SIAP but did anyone realize that Colby Bortles is a freshmen on our team? He's the younger brother of Blake Brotles, the QB at UCF
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 3:58 pm to
Germans
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
812 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

I think he's talking about the development. States like Georgia and Virginia have loads of talent and coaches which is why so many top players come from there. I coached two years of ball in Mississippi and saw some talent but not as much as travel teams from some other states.
Thank you. I played in both Mississippi and North Carolina. The difference are pretty large in terms of resources, facilities, and coaching budget.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 5:29 pm
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