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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by SouthMSReb
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:27 pm to
I'm definitely jelly, but like y'all have said, happy to see MS schools doing well. Had to suck for them in 2013 but of course back then all of our commits were just empty stars. Time will tell. WAOM
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:58 pm to
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This Mississippi State class is going to be good... I don't think the Egg Bowl matters too much in recruiting but it does make a difference... Had OM lost in 2012 and not gone bowling we probably wouldn't have closed as strong as we did.. Had MSU lost in Starkville last year and finished 5-7 they probably wouldn't be landing so many high quality players like they are now either.



This post has a lot of validity
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:01 am to
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Hopefully the Egg Bowl has national significance.


Don't get me wrong, I love beating y'all when y'all are down, but I'm kind of getting tired of the hate on the Egg Bowl from outsiders because both teams of average. Having two 9 win teams helps both of us for recruiting due to national exposure. I don't care when y'all are successful, I just want to be more successful. I'm willing to bet most of you feel the same way.





























Now go to hell
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 12:13 am
Posted by Col Reb is my mascot
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:08 am to
I agree, the Iron Bowl goes a long way towards helping Alabama and Auburn nationally year in and year out. Hopefully Ole Miss and State can get close to that level one day
Posted by GatorReb
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:27 am to
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Had MSU lost in Starkville last year and finished 5-7 they probably wouldn't be landing so many high quality players like they are now either.


The thing that made me the most upset with letting State take that EggBowl from us last year was that that was our chance to really take control and take a step ahead.

If they lose and go onto 5-7 then going into this season Mullen would be on the hotseat (or at least it would have been heating up) and they wouldnt have the momentum from that high scoring bowl win.

Same issue we avoided in 2012. It crazy how it worked out both years.

I honestly feel like this years Egg Bowl will have West champion implications this year. Not exactly winner goes. But being in a situation that affects tiebreakers and all. Cause i really think the West is going to be wide open and think Bama, Auburn, LSU, State, or OM HAS A CHANCE to win it. Not saying we will but seriously all 5 teams have a chance. I could see the West being decided on rivalry weekend and through some tiebreaker.
Posted by Whereisomaha
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:43 pm to
Fletch has told Neal and Yancy we still lead. Could be similar to what Jamal did with bama, pre madonnas.

Anyone that doesn't think that the egg bowl had a major part in states class is crazy. No, one game doesn't make a class and most of the time doesn't swing a number of kids that would make a difference, but when that game is the sole recruiting tool, an it decides if in year 5 if we go bowling or not, then yea it matters. State is recruiting saying that are the team on the rise, they own the state, and the best sip players come here. They can't say any of that if they lose that game.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:48 pm to
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State is recruiting saying that are the team on the rise, they own the state, and the best sip players come here. They can't say any of that if they lose that game.


How could you possibly know this? You don't think he's mentioning our new stadium, top tier facilities, or the ability to come in and make an immediate impact? Are you really stupid enough to believe Mullen is going all in on the Egg Bowl when he recruits these players?

The only recruits that are affected by the Egg Bowl are the ones that have OM and State in their top 2. How many guys in our recruiting class right now are in that position and haven't shut down recruiting? Not a flame, I'm actually curious.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Whereisomaha
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:10 pm to
Your new stadium and facilities mean jack shite to kids if y'all can't sell "team on the rise". If you can't make a bowl game in year 5 you aren't recruiting as well as you are now. It just so happens that the egg bowl put you in a bowl game and let you make that sell.

You are correct that the actual egg bowl result only affects kids we are both going after. I was saying you are selling you are the team on the rise an improved facilities, sell outs. etc are part of that message but doesn't hold up if you don't make it to a bowl
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:14 pm to
If, if, if. The fact is, is that we made it to a bowl so I don't know why you're living in these hypothetical situations.

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but doesn't hold up if you don't make it to a bowl


Seems to be working for Tennessee quite well. No, I'm not comparing us to Tennessee, but what could Butch be selling to those kids? It sure as hell isn't going to bowl games.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:14 pm to
Facilities only mean anything to a recruit if they are terrible. Until you have a waterfall in your locker room, we're all playing 2nd fiddle to Bama in terms of facilities. They show you're putting forth effort but that's it.
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:15 pm to
You make a good point.
Posted by reggierayreb
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:29 pm to
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This post has a lot of validity





All of mine do... The ones that aren't flames/trolls/baits anyway... So yes... 3% of my posts are well thought out and valid.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:46 pm to
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If, if, if. The fact is, is that we made it to a bowl so I don't know why you're living in these hypothetical situations.

I'm not "living" many people in this thread said that the egg has nothing to do with state's recent croot'n success. I just responded to that.
Posted by Landsharks
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:03 pm to
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**Hear Ole Miss is sitting in the cat bird's seat for 4-Star '16 TE Octavious Cooley out of Laurel.


Wtf does that mean
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:05 pm to
It obviously has something to do with recruiting, but I think it's minimal. It only affect a couple of recruits every year that can't make up their mind between Ole Miss and Miss State which rarely effects a teams overall success in recruiting.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:12 pm to
Some of you are short-sighted. The Egg Bowl is having a huge impact in the state this year. 1/2 of State's success right now is due to perception of the program. ESPN is ranking their players left and right and analysts are calling State and Dak darkhorses. That means more to a recruit than a locker room ever will. The staff is recruiting to that perception right now and it is paying dividends. That perception is not there if State comes out and loses the Egg Bowl as most expected.

As I previously said, goddamn it Bo.
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:29 pm to
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goddamn it Bo


I blame Arkansas more. If they didn't turn the ball over in the red zone there was a decent chance State would have finished 4-8 with 0 off season momentum.
Posted by pivey14
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:31 pm to
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I blame Arkansas more. If they didn't turn the ball over in the red zone there was a decent chance State would have finished 4-8 with 0 off season momentum.



This is such an ED"esque" post
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:45 pm to
Forget the fricking egg bowl... It's because that particular game put you in a bowl an on a 3 game winning streak. Lose that game, egg bowl or not, and you aren't recruiting like you are.
Posted by BalladofBradSowell
Member since Nov 2012
812 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:51 pm to
That one play at Arkansas completely changed the outlook of the season. The State boards were all doom and gloom before that swing started.
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