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re: Will atheists and agnostics go to Heaven?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:13 am to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:13 am to TbirdSpur2010
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He was using that story as a metaphor for faith. Same as when he said it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. He's illustrating that when folks allow worldly trappings to supersede their faith, they're trusting in the wrong thing for their salvation.
Truth
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:19 am to TbirdSpur2010
I hope you are right, because I have trouble taking the final step and giving all, but new age preachers like to get people with money into their membership, and try to explain things.. in a way they will like to hear
When you read The Bible word for word for yourself though, and think about what is happening in the stories there, it is telling something different.
When you read The Bible word for word for yourself though, and think about what is happening in the stories there, it is telling something different.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:27 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Bottom line: money is not the root of all evil, the LOVE of money is.
This is also truth. Nothing wrong with having money. Worshipping money is the problem.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:28 am to CNB
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The most fricked up thing about Christianity. You can be the nicest fricking person ever. Never wronged anyone, never lied, never sought power or money. Just lived life to help others and be a good person. But if you don't believe, you go to hell.
Wrong
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:55 am to auggie
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I have trouble taking the final step and giving all
Again, you don't have to give up "all" to be a believer. Only thing you have to accept is that faith in Christ alone is your salvation.
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new age preachers like to get people with money into their membership, and try to explain things.. in a way they will like to hear
I don't follow any new age preachers
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When you read The Bible word for word for yourself though, and think about what is happening in the stories there, it is telling something different.
I read the Bible. It doesn't say anything about the eschewing of worldly possessions/comforts being catalysts into getting into heaven. Only that it's easier to lean solely on one's faith when one has little else upon which to lean.
Idk about other folks, but I plan on getting paid and providing as many comforts for my loved ones and I as possible. As long as I don't lose sight of the fact that my faith in Christ is what's saved me, not my works and not my possessions, I am good.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 1:01 am to TbirdSpur2010
Again, I hope you are right.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 6:16 am to DownSouthJukin
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Will atheists and agnostics go to Heaven?
If being good to people isn't enough to get me in to Heaven, then frick that little prick.
I'll just go hang out with the other imaginary guy that lives under the ground and throws hella bonfire get togethers.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:16 am to TbirdSpur2010
According to Jesus, you are wrong.
He stated, "it is easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven."
He stated, "it is easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven."
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:10 am to DownSouthJukin
This is one of the truest things I've ever read. Props to you
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:08 am to CNB
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Never wronged anyone, never lied, never sought power or money. Just lived life to help others and be a good person.
Ever met this person? Me neither...
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:21 am to WonderWartHawg
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Ever met this person? Me neither...
I believe there has ever only been one human such as this.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:25 am to DownSouthJukin
Maybe, but pack plenty of water & ice, to be on the safe side.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:47 am to samson'sseed
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He stated, "it is easier to get a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven."
He didn't say that rich people do not go to heaven. Obviously, Jesus is referring to the way some people go about seeking wealth & what they do with it once they acquire it. If their pursuit of it comes before God, and it becomes the most important thing in their lives, or they don't do the "right" things with it - tithing, helping the needy, etc. - there is a problem. Jesus has/had no problem with rich people; their making/allowing money, power, and the pursuit of it to mean more to them than God, doing much of anything to get it, therefore idolizing or "worshipping" it, he did/does have a problem with.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:52 am to Arkla Missy
I'm gonna buy a ticket, 1st class, with no layovers..
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:02 pm to Ole Geauxt
I don't think you can buy a stairway to heaven, OG. That's just some of zeppelin's fantasy bullshite.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:08 pm to Arkla Missy
I've worked for over 60 years, I've saved up $27 dollars, that'll surely get me an aisle seat in Bidness Class.
Eta:,, that was a pretty cool song, even if it was by a bunch of long hairs.
Eta:,, that was a pretty cool song, even if it was by a bunch of long hairs.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:48 pm to DownSouthJukin
Depends on whether or not both places actually exist and what the criteria are for each.
If the narrow path described in the Bible is truly the reality of the situation, I'll be in hell along with the majority of "Christians" who have ever lived. The reality is that the change inherent to genuine acceptance of Christ described in the NT is absent from the lives of most believers.
So, when asked this question by believers I usually just say I'll be hell and they likely will be as well.
If the narrow path described in the Bible is truly the reality of the situation, I'll be in hell along with the majority of "Christians" who have ever lived. The reality is that the change inherent to genuine acceptance of Christ described in the NT is absent from the lives of most believers.
So, when asked this question by believers I usually just say I'll be hell and they likely will be as well.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 1:19 pm to DownSouthJukin
What the hell is going on around here? It's like all of these morons just discovered atheism and are now terrified that it exists
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 1:46 pm
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