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re: Who Lives Near A Civil War Battlefield?
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:09 pm to DisplacedKentuckian
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:09 pm to DisplacedKentuckian
I grew up in Hampton VA (est 1610). The Monitor-Merrimack battle was basically right in front between Hampton and Norfolk. I used to go to aft Monroe all of the time and that was where Jefferson Davis was held prisoner after the war.
my parents moved to Yorktown and basically are off Surrender Road although they curved it so it's not as straight a shot from their neighborhood on to it. Behind their house is a civil war hospital but the civil war aspect of Yorktown is downplayed compared to the revolutionary war so you don't see much about it.
That area is interesting in that roads and highways are named after people or events from the revolutionary war, war of 1812, civil war and Mercury space program. it's a funny mix in that you can visit Jamestown, Williamsburg, Yorktown and civil war sites while sitting under F22s flying in formation or see the huge apparatus they used to practice moon landings.
The most interesting civil war battlefield I personally visited was Cold Harbor up near Richmond. Second favorite is Charleston although I don't know why, maybe it's all the hot girls running around downtown.
my parents moved to Yorktown and basically are off Surrender Road although they curved it so it's not as straight a shot from their neighborhood on to it. Behind their house is a civil war hospital but the civil war aspect of Yorktown is downplayed compared to the revolutionary war so you don't see much about it.
That area is interesting in that roads and highways are named after people or events from the revolutionary war, war of 1812, civil war and Mercury space program. it's a funny mix in that you can visit Jamestown, Williamsburg, Yorktown and civil war sites while sitting under F22s flying in formation or see the huge apparatus they used to practice moon landings.
The most interesting civil war battlefield I personally visited was Cold Harbor up near Richmond. Second favorite is Charleston although I don't know why, maybe it's all the hot girls running around downtown.
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:11 pm to DisplacedKentuckian
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Civil War historian Shelby Foote remarked that Smith "accomplished in Kentucky the nearest thing to a Cannae ever scored by any general, North or South, in the course of the whole war."
If I could have had an accent it would have been Shelby Foote's. Or the narrators. Either one, they made that Ken Burns series just fascinating to watch even today.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:18 pm to N97883
quote:Agreed. To me the two best parts of that series were:
If I could have had an accent it would have been Shelby Foote's. The dude made the Ken Burns series awesome.
1) Foote's description of the action at Fallen Timbers as Forrest's men covered the retreat - talking about Forrest pulling a Yankee onto the saddle behind him to use as a shield.
2) Talking about meeting Forrest's descendants and getting to hold his saber, but then when he told one of the granddaughters that he (Foote) felt that if the war produced two great geniuses, one was Forrest and other was Lincoln, her response was "You know, we never thought much of Mr. Lincoln in our family."
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:27 pm to N97883
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I grew up in Hampton VA (est 1610). The Monitor-Merrimack battle was basically right in front between Hampton and Norfolk. I used to go to aft Monroe all of the time and that was where Jefferson Davis was held prisoner after the war.
I live three blocks from where the Monitor was constructed and launched. There's a nice little park here in Greenpoint honoring the crew and the vessel. New York is one of the few northern cities that does a good job of Civil War preservation and commemoration. Lots of monuments and museum exhibits. As for Civil War battles, I live about two miles from where the 1863 draft riots occurred.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:34 pm to PJinAtl
That's where he met Forrest's daughter right? I thought that was interesting too.
The other thing I remember vividly was where he said "before the war people said The United States are, after the war you said he United States is."
The series I believe is on Netflix.
The other thing I remember vividly was where he said "before the war people said The United States are, after the war you said he United States is."
The series I believe is on Netflix.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 12:42 pm to calitiger
I love The City. 
But I doubt they like to have their past lynching history dredged up but I would count that as a very important battlefield in how destabilizing that was or could have been to Lincoln and the North.
It goes to show that it was not as cut and dry as revisionists and southern haters would like it to be. The movie Cold Mountain must have been utterly confusing for a lot of people with no real clue about or interest in the war.
What I also thought interesting is the postmortem on the war and they talk about all of the Confederates who retired in the north and vice versa.
But I doubt they like to have their past lynching history dredged up but I would count that as a very important battlefield in how destabilizing that was or could have been to Lincoln and the North. It goes to show that it was not as cut and dry as revisionists and southern haters would like it to be. The movie Cold Mountain must have been utterly confusing for a lot of people with no real clue about or interest in the war.
What I also thought interesting is the postmortem on the war and they talk about all of the Confederates who retired in the north and vice versa.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/16/14 at 3:39 pm to PJinAtl
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Interesting tie to Pea Ridge from my family. My g-g-grandfather and his siblings were all born between 1834 and 1854 (g-g-grandfather was the oldest) and lived in Cobb County, Georgia. The oldest sister married and moved to southwest Arkansas, near what is now Texarkana, sometime between 1858 and 1860. The next oldest brother went out to visit his sister and brother in law and was there when the war started. He enlisted and was a member of Co. D, 4th Arkansas Infantry.
They saw action at Pea Ridge and later moved east and just missed fighting at Shiloh but fell back with the Confederates to Corinth. They moved with the army again to the east to Shell Mound, TN (right outside Chattanooga) and in camp my g-g-g-uncle ran into some of his old friends (and at least one cousin - more on him at the end) who were all members of the 41st Georgia.
He finds a substitute to take his place in the 4th Ark and transfers to Co. K 41st Georgia. The 41st accompanies Bragg on his invasion of Kentucky, and sees some of the hottest action at Perryville, where my g-g-g-uncle is killed, he is buried in the mass grave just off the battlefield.
The 41st moves back south with Bragg and eventually moves to Vicksburg, where they are stationed in the rifle pits near the Indian Mound at Chickasaw Bayou. During the fight there in December, the cousin was killed as well.
That's interesting. Most of my family originally came from Isle of Wight, England and settled in Virginia and Georgia. And a few of these relatives eventually settled in SW Arkansas before and after the Civil War. I do know that some of them fought during the war (in Georgia and elsewhere) but I'll have to do some research to get the specifics.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 5/18/14 at 7:04 am to ugasickem
Any of you live near 92 in Oaulding County a Georgia? The battle of Pickets Mill was at the field across from where Bone Cir and 92 combine. The Confederate trenches are in the south side next to the tree line, the farm then drops to a creek and the union lines are on the north side but I do not believe there were trenches.
the confederate earth works evidently were very good and had a rock bottom. Unfortunately the family that owned the farm got tired of trespassers and he filled in the trenches.
Go south of the farm to the next intersection and that's where the Southern Airways DC9 that deadsticked onto 92 after flying Into a severe thunderstorm crashed. evidently that's where the gas station it hit was and exploded, the pilots almost successfully pulled it off but the wingspan was just two great for a small two lane road.
the confederate earth works evidently were very good and had a rock bottom. Unfortunately the family that owned the farm got tired of trespassers and he filled in the trenches.
Go south of the farm to the next intersection and that's where the Southern Airways DC9 that deadsticked onto 92 after flying Into a severe thunderstorm crashed. evidently that's where the gas station it hit was and exploded, the pilots almost successfully pulled it off but the wingspan was just two great for a small two lane road.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 8:23 am to Tackle74
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Too bad that son of a bitch did not die
I do not understand this statement.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 10:31 am to bencoleman
I think there were a lot more Revolutionary battles in close proximity to where I live. Kershaw SC.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 10:47 am to N97883
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Go south of the farm to the next intersection and that's where the Southern Airways DC9 that deadsticked onto 92 after flying Into a severe thunderstorm crashed
New Hope, GA
My Mom was one of the survivors. Went to the memorial down there once. Some really nice people in the area.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 10:50 am to BigOrangeBri
Girlfriend lives at Shys Hill. Nowhere for me though.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 11:20 am to BallstotheWesleyWall
Andersonville isn't too far from me. Not much to the prison grounds anymore. But the cemetery and museum is really awesome. There is also the old historic part of the town that has a lot of antique memorabilia during that time.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 11:33 am to RebelFreeze48
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92 in Oaulding County
he means Paulding Co. of course, yea I was just down 92 the other day, had to drive to Carrolton, a family member who is an admin at West Ga. also got her Masters there this year.
Kennesaw Mt is still one of the best place to see earth works, if you want to see trenches dug out that stretch for over a mile. They still have the canons at the top, at least they did last time I was up there.
To answer the op, grew up near one very notable battlefield in Mo, and now live in the middle of a number of them.
This post was edited on 5/18/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 5/18/14 at 1:11 pm to Jagd Tiger
Guess I'll finally contribute. Where I live is a farm that's been in the family for over a century. Our house is a post civil war structure built in the early 1880's.
I'm 12 miles or so from the Prairie Grove Battlefield, our place is at the junction of the 2 major roads that come through the area and before the state built a new highway around the hills the old stagecoach road cuts across the property in the upper hilly portion. The creek that runs through the lower portion of the valley was used as a staging point and retreat encampment by the Confederates, and was also the last stop before entering Oklahoma for the Bell and Benge routes of the Trail of Tears.
Since my family was full of preachers and holy people the creek was where the area churches did their baptisms too. I always found it odd that the same place that displaced Natives and Civil War soldiers prepped/rested for/from their journeys was also used for signifying washing away sins and prepping for the journey to heaven. It's just always something I think of when I'm down there fishing or screwing around with my nephew.
I'm 12 miles or so from the Prairie Grove Battlefield, our place is at the junction of the 2 major roads that come through the area and before the state built a new highway around the hills the old stagecoach road cuts across the property in the upper hilly portion. The creek that runs through the lower portion of the valley was used as a staging point and retreat encampment by the Confederates, and was also the last stop before entering Oklahoma for the Bell and Benge routes of the Trail of Tears.
Since my family was full of preachers and holy people the creek was where the area churches did their baptisms too. I always found it odd that the same place that displaced Natives and Civil War soldiers prepped/rested for/from their journeys was also used for signifying washing away sins and prepping for the journey to heaven. It's just always something I think of when I'm down there fishing or screwing around with my nephew.
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