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re: What is your opinion of the Federal Reserve System?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:36 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:36 am to Aubie Spr96
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I'd prefer a market based currency. Would it have volatility? Of course. However, I'd take free market volatility over gov't manipulation every day of the week.
Bitcoin.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 9:18 am to Wtodd
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Don't assume the guys running the Fed know what they're doing; just look at our economy since the Fed's inception.
I like to think they have an idea, our economy has been very stable all things considered. I guess much of that could be attributed to all the war manufacturing WWII and after and then the technology boom...but where has it been volatile? Other than the obvious depression/recession which I think would be fair to throw the blame their way.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:24 am to Robert Goulet
The Fed manipulates the market which does more harm than good in the long term. They've created an artificial housing market by keeping the interest rates extremely low despite the market dictating that rates SHOULD have already been raised by a substantial amount.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:38 am to Robert Goulet
If you want to learn about how the fed is awful and has helped create the current income disparity, this article is really, really good.
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The simple truth is, the Fed has caused systematic, persistent and massive falsification of prices all along the yield curve and throughout all sectors of the financial market. The single most important price in all of capitalism is the money market rate of interest. It sets the cost of carry in all asset markets, and therefore indirectly fuels the bid for all debt, equity and derivative securities in the global financial system.
Needless to say, when the cost of money is set at— and held at— zero in nominal terms, and driven deeply negative in after-inflation and after-tax terms, it becomes the mothers milk of speculation. Accordingly, it is neither a slightly lower trend rate of CPI inflation over the past 27 years nor an improvement in the art of central banking which has driven the core reference rate in the world financial markets—the 10-year US Treasury Note—–down by 80%.
Instead, the true agent of that decline is massive central bank intrusion into financial markets, wholesale manipulation of prices and fraudulent monetization of public debt and other securities. Just since 2006, the combined balance sheets of the world’s central banks have expanded from $6 trillion to $22 trillion, meaning that the scale of the implicit monetary fraud has been monumental.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:16 pm to Robert Goulet
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:29 pm to TX Tiger
modern day money changers.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:00 pm to Robert Goulet
quote:Take your entire net worth and hand it over to a group of thugs to "manage" for you. What could go wrong?
From my cursory understanding of how this country's economy works, I am mostly ok with having and independent centralized banking system.
What say you?
Do you support a monetary system whose value is maintained by the barrel of a gun?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:26 pm to cokebottleag
Very interesting read. I think the author and crispy above touched on some things that are good points. The fed did have a lot to do with causing this last recession. The housing bubble was created because of the interest being lowered to 1%, which it still is. Obviously that is why investors and investment bankers went and basically bought and sold mortgages and then as we all know...when they ran out of qualified borrowers, approved unqualified borrowers. A lot of that can be attributed to Greenspan (who was mentioned many times in that article) who more and more seems like a huge chode. I wonder when that interest rate for returns will be raised. Otherwise, it seems the investments will just be made in something else and we will have the same thing happen again.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:27 pm to TX Tiger
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Take your entire net worth and hand it over to a group of thugs to "manage" for you. What could go wrong?
Are you talking about them controlling inflation, etc?
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Do you support a monetary system whose value is maintained by the barrel of a gun?
I don't know what exactly you mean by this.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:34 pm to Robert Goulet
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The fed did have a lot to do with causing this last recession
Their 1st big oops was the Great Depression.
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“Regarding the Great Depression, … we did it. We’re very sorry. … We won’t do it again.” Ben Bernanke, November 8, 2002, in a speech given at “A Conference to Honor Milton Friedman … On the Occasion of His 90th Birthday.”
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:36 pm to Robert Goulet
It's one of the biggest crocs of shite in this country
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:42 pm to CarolinaCock
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It's one of the biggest crocs of shite in this country
I keep seeing comments akin to this with nothing behind it. Saying something sucks is fine, but why does it suck and what is a better solution?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:28 pm to Robert Goulet
Shady, secretive, keeping the wealthy happy.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:29 pm to Robert Goulet
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The fed doesn't print money.
How do you quantify this response? The FOMC is directly responsible for the supply of money in the system and the declining $.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:42 pm to Robert Goulet
quote:"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Rothschild.
Take your entire net worth and hand it over to a group of thugs to "manage" for you. What could go wrong?
Are you talking about them controlling inflation, etc?
quote:What is our money backed by?
Do you support a monetary system whose value is maintained by the barrel of a gun?
I don't know what exactly you mean by this.
Nothing. That's why we have to invade the Middle East and take out Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, and others. They were putting together an Oil Bourse that would eliminate using dollars for oil trade.
If the rest of the world refuses to use the dollar, it becomes worthless because it is, itself, worthless.
It's also among the reasons we're in the Middle East, to bring the banking systems of a number of those countries into line with using the dollar as the world's reserve currency.
Watch the video I linked, "Creature from Jekyll Island" if you want to learn about the Federal Reserve.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:18 pm to bbvdd
Well, it's a fact. Money supply =\= actual money. The treasury dept prints money and banks create and destroy money with loans. Of course, the fed dictates the money supply to the banks.
There are many factors for a weak dollar. You can definitely blame the fed for inflation of the dollar, but they aren't directly responsible for all commerce that helped lead to a weaker dollar.
There are many factors for a weak dollar. You can definitely blame the fed for inflation of the dollar, but they aren't directly responsible for all commerce that helped lead to a weaker dollar.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:21 pm to TX Tiger
Well, the dollar is backed by faith in the world's strongest economy. Are you a gold standard type?
I've heard the oil dollar argument before and that is interesting to me. I will try to give that vid a watch when I get the chance...I noticed that it's rather long; however, the first two comments mentioned the Hebrews so I bet it'll be good.
I've heard the oil dollar argument before and that is interesting to me. I will try to give that vid a watch when I get the chance...I noticed that it's rather long; however, the first two comments mentioned the Hebrews so I bet it'll be good.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:38 pm to Robert Goulet
quote:Yes, but at what price? When our soldiers march off to war, they're not fighting for freedom - they're fighting for the almighty dollar and those who profit most from it.
Well, the dollar is backed by faith in the world's strongest economy.
There's something inherently wrong with that.
quote:Not necessarily, but gold is better than faith.
Are you a gold standard type?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 4:46 pm to TX Tiger
Preach it TX. Where's Russian when you need him?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:22 pm to TX Tiger
I agree 100% with your war statements. I've had many, many posts on here saying how disgusting it is that we as a country profit off war and seem to fine with it as long as we are killing those damned terrorists. The price paid is blood of young Americans and that makes my stomach turn. Youre preaching to the choir with that
But this thread is me trying to learn about the fed and a better way for America to operate. I agree that faith sucks, I dont think it's a good thing. But with gold fluctuating so much and being pretty scarce, it doesn't seem like a viable option.
But this thread is me trying to learn about the fed and a better way for America to operate. I agree that faith sucks, I dont think it's a good thing. But with gold fluctuating so much and being pretty scarce, it doesn't seem like a viable option.
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