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re: What is the issue with the death penalty?

Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:20 am to
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10568 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:20 am to
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So the only worthwhile system to have is a perfect one?


When speaking of taking an innocent person's life? Of course it should be perfect.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 2:58 pm to
i'm pretty liberal but the death penalty is one thing i'm very conservative on. If anything, I don't think it's strong enough.

We need to decide what we are going to do. You either are going to put someone in solitary for the rest of your life or you're going to fricking set them on fire or skin them alive or some shite, this fricking lethal injection bullshite is horrible. And on top of that you get made a hero basically you get all the anti death row people on your site you become somewhat of a celebrity


At least bring back the gas chamber or the electric chair
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:01 pm to
I'm not a fan of death of any kind which makes me unpopular with both dominant political spectrums. I agree with the posters that say let him sit in solitary for the rest of his life.
Posted by Motengator
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2013
1357 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:06 pm to
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I agree with the posters that say let him sit in solitary for the rest of his life.


So, y'all are good then by volunteering to pay the $32,000 a year, it will cost to keep him there? Great!
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:10 pm to
I'll split the bill with the other 300 million+ Americans. Greater!
Posted by Motengator
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2013
1357 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:18 pm to
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I'll split the bill with the other 300 million+ Americans. Greater!


And that, is the problem. Spoken like a true dumbass liberal. I don't want to split the bill. Kill him, if you don't want him dead, then you pay for him. It's really very simple. It's easy to have an opinion, when you have no say.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:28 pm to
Yeah, nothing implies supreme intelligence like spouting off phrases like "spoken like a true dumbass liberal." You're probably one of those guys whose Twitter About Me section reads, "I don't tolerate stupidity."

ETA: For the record, I voted for Romney
This post was edited on 5/16/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Motengator
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2013
1357 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:36 pm to
Funny you should mention that. I don't tolerate stupidity. I also don't tolerate twitter or facebook. Sorry I hurt your feelings. I think most of the intelligent, common sense bearing folks, like myself, just call'em like we see'em. You know, stupid is as stupid does. In my opinion, it is STUPID to spend money keeping a murderer alive, as punishment.

Edit - I wasted my vote on him, as well.
This post was edited on 5/16/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:39 pm to
Why would your lack of social media hurt my feelings?
Posted by Motengator
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2013
1357 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:46 pm to
The dumbass remark, got your attention. I didn't call you one, just said you sounded like one. I also didn't say I lack social media, just said I didn't tolerate it. Much like this site, I keep going back just remind myself how much ignorance there is in the world today.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99035 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:47 pm to
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Many think killing him will make him a martyr. I can understand that point of view.


That's my only drawback in this particular situation.

From a psychological aspect, I've also thought at times it'd be better to keep some of these people alive and study them. I'm not sure I'd have much of an issue with someone agreeing to a life term vs. the death penalty if they sign away their body to science and we can learn something from them. But ethics and things obviously.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99035 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 3:53 pm to
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So, y'all are good then by volunteering to pay the $32,000 a year, it will cost to keep him there? Great!


It costs significantly more to try a death penalty case and keep those folks on death row while they are awaiting execution through a ridiculously lengthy appeals process.
Posted by Motengator
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2013
1357 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 4:02 pm to
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It costs significantly more to try a death penalty case and keep those folks on death row while they are awaiting execution through a ridiculously lengthy appeals process.


And that's why they should be allowed one appeal. If overturned, take them out back and "get'r done".
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 5:23 pm to
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I keep going back just remind myself how much ignorance there is in the world today.


1. What?

2. If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17271 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 7:13 pm to
Death by firing squad. 100% dead every time.
To be used on people like the turd in Boston or the pole smoker in Colorado.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

When speaking of taking an innocent person's life? Of course it should be perfect.


You know, I find it interesting that you're of the opinion that it is somehow worse for the guy to rot in jail for the rest of his life than to kill him, but at the same time, the system is a failure if it kills one innocent person? So never mind that an imperfect system without the death penalty would incarcerate at least one innocent person for the rest of their life? Isn't that a little bit inconsistent?
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17271 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 11:25 pm to
You know what they say,
shite happens.

Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 5/17/15 at 9:46 am to
quote:

What is the issue with the death penalty?


As long as it is possible for one innocent person to be executed by the state, capital punishment should not be an option. You can hardly go a week without hearing of someone being posthumously vindicated or released from prison after decades of false imprisonment.

The Boston bomber is clearly guilty, but not all cases are as cut and dry. The government fricks shite up all the time; idk why anyone would willfully allow them to administer capital punishment against the citizenry.
This post was edited on 5/17/15 at 9:47 am
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 5/17/15 at 9:48 am to
Its all that damn purple dinosaur's fault - or whatever that barney dude was. Liberal brain washing Im telling ya
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/17/15 at 9:56 am to
quote:

As long as it is possible for one innocent person to be executed by the state, capital punishment should not be an option.


By that logic, the system should have no punishments at all as long as innocent person can receive one. I'm of the mind that it's more heinous to let an innocent person rot in jail for the rest of their life than to humanely kill them.
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