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What is the issue with the death penalty?

Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:54 pm
Posted by MoreLandshark
Starkvegas
Member since Dec 2014
744 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:54 pm
I lean loft on most social issue, but Jesus Christ. Why do people feel sorry for the fricking Boston bomber? What's so wrong with the death penalty?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:55 pm to
Liberal pussies gonna puss.
Posted by MoreLandshark
Starkvegas
Member since Dec 2014
744 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:58 pm to
Even as a liberal I agree
Posted by 870Hog
99999 posts
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:03 pm to
Extreme cases as the bomber I rather have life in solitary. Let the fricker slowly lose his mind and feel it slip away from him and have a tv with images of those slain in the attack repeating their images. While feeding him only pork.

But thats just me, death for him is a reward in his faith. He wanted to die why reward him with an escape from his torment?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:16 pm to
Many think killing him will make him a martyr. I can understand that point of view.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18798 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:29 pm to
We're giving him what he wants. He should rot for the next 80 years, that's more of a punishment, IMHO.
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30162 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:31 pm to
Screw the death penalty he should be tortured and barely fed just to keep him alive till he dies
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:52 pm to
I don't think many of those injured or who had loved ones killed have a lot of sympathy for his arse.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:01 pm to
In the Boston Bomber case where guilt is no question, I really don't have a problem with it.

Generally speaking though, the state shouldn't be involved in taking someone's life unless it ALWAYS gets the conviction correct. Since that's never going to be the case, I don't think the death penalty should be an option.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:14 pm to
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In the Boston Bomber case where guilt is no question, I really don't have a problem with it.


I generally think that the whole "we'll kill you back" mentality is kind of stupid.

Socially: We ought not kill people who cannot defend themselves.

Morally: We ought not kill people for that reason, and for the sake that we as a society are better.

Economically: If we simply limited the death penalty to cases of absolute guilt where there can be no question and we limit legal objections -- it could be the correct response.

So, we're both in agreement here.

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Generally speaking though, the state shouldn't be involved in taking someone's life unless it ALWAYS gets the conviction correct. Since that's never going to be the case, I don't think the death penalty should be an option.


I think it should be case by case -- and only when there can be no doubt -- as in this case as you said.

But, if I had to choose, I would gladly choose the death penalty rather than life in prison. So maybe in some cases, it ought to be up to the prisoner whether or not they want to go.

Kevorkian and stuff.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:23 pm to
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So maybe in some cases, it ought to be up to the prisoner whether or not they want to go.


I agree. If they want to die, let them. It's cheaper than housing them indefinitely and they want to go anyway...

It's a win/win unless you want vengeance.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:28 pm to
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I agree. If they want to die, let them. It's cheaper than housing them indefinitely and they want to go anyway...

It's a win/win unless you want vengeance.


This word has always bothered me (it's a bit off-topic, but that's where we at) regarding justice. I see a lot of people wanting this, and making appeals to it and while I understand it, I don't believe in torturing prisoners.

It would be pretty nice to let them kill themselves in whatever way they wanted, though.

Get to see some creativity.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:33 pm to
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This word has always bothered me (it's a bit off-topic, but that's where we at) regarding justice. I see a lot of people wanting this, and making appeals to it and while I understand it, I don't believe in torturing prisoners.


Wholly with you on this perspective. I'm often troubled by the extent people relish the idea of punishing "bad people".

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Get to see some creativity.


Death by cruise missle.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 9:46 pm to
If you commit your crime in front of 3 or more credible witnesses in my state you move to the front of the line, moat states are trying to do away with the death penalty, in my state we're putting in an express lane.



Ron White












I think the death penalty should be handed out more often, but I have a unique view having lived in that particular society within a society, and there are far more truly fricked up predators in this world than you can fathom.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11353 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:29 pm to
I like this idea

@BradThor: Good. Now, make #Tsarnaev run the #BostonMarathon route, never knowing when his death will come.
Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
5857 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 8:05 am to
Kill this cock smoker and allow idiotic people to protest.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 9:22 am to
Why we shouldn't have death penalty

I'm okay with the death penalty morally. The problem is that too many innocent people have been convicted and executed bc of corrupt, apathetic people in the legal system. Prosecutors routinely withhold evidence. They are interested in winning, not getting to the truth. Our entire legal system is based on winning. Winners make more money and move up, not people who go after truth.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:00 am to
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What is the issue with the death penalty?


wrongful convictions. i know 2 guys on florida death row... both guilty as frick. i may actually celebrate one of their executions, so i'm clearly not anti death penalty. i'm just highly skeptical of cops and the sao, they have colluded in the past and they will again in the future.
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:08 am to
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The problem is that too many innocent people have been convicted and executed bc of corrupt, apathetic people in the legal system.


If one innocent is killed the system is a failure. I believe we have already done that at least once.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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If one innocent is killed the system is a failure.


So the only worthwhile system to have is a perfect one?
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