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re: What is something that you absolutely know, that you wish you didn't?
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:10 pm to PrivatePublic
Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:10 pm to PrivatePublic
Incorrect. I can expound later. I need to go take a smoke break now though.
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 6:12 pm to derSturm37
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Yeah I'm not sold on the cancer cure conspiracy, either. I think of all the money we spend on the current treatments: chemotherapy and radiation. And basically no one in this country is denied these. Meaning that tons of public funds are paying for it in many if not most cases. I'm crying bullshite.
I agree. Cancer is so complex that it defies all the solutions that medical technology hurl at it. Research into the causes and possible treatments for cancer is a major industry.
Cancer research is one of the main efforts at UK and UofL. The Markey Cancer Center is nationally recognized at UK. Research is so intense and in demand that the school is building a new $265 million research center on campus. Since 2000, UK and UofL have built medical structures that total $2+ billion.
Kentucky has the highest rates of cancer in the nation and our other health measures are in the lowest categories, too. Thank goodness our two main universities are trying to change that.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 8:45 pm to PrivatePublic
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forgive me if i think this is bull shite. a legit cure would make so much money hand over foot initially that it would attract plenty of investors who are looking for a quick bang and not a long term stream of revenue. not to mention the good pub that goes with curing cancer.
Spot on.
A cure for cancer would be the most profitable drug ever created.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:27 pm to JustGetItRight
Sorry for not coming back and responding to that earlier.
In a CoC program a few years ago we went and toured Hospitals, the VA and A&Ms cancer research in Temple, TX. At the cancer research center they said they've found and worked on several clinical trials that have had 40-70% success rates in various cancers. Breast, lung, colon, prostate, and others. Not one of them have been picked by big pharmaceuticals. I asked why and the answer I was given was exact that you've heard. The money to go through FDA and larger clinical trials would not match the possible money from the treatment. It would be a sinkhole for years and years and they aren't willing to put the investment into it.
In a CoC program a few years ago we went and toured Hospitals, the VA and A&Ms cancer research in Temple, TX. At the cancer research center they said they've found and worked on several clinical trials that have had 40-70% success rates in various cancers. Breast, lung, colon, prostate, and others. Not one of them have been picked by big pharmaceuticals. I asked why and the answer I was given was exact that you've heard. The money to go through FDA and larger clinical trials would not match the possible money from the treatment. It would be a sinkhole for years and years and they aren't willing to put the investment into it.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:30 pm to auggie
Just murdered woman's photos by her BF/killer and him commenting on her putting up a fight and not dying so fast and exchanging comments with the other posters.
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Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:34 pm to 3nOut
OK. Your testimony raises a lot of questions, but it's also rife with unstated variables. A 40 - 70 percent success rate in breast, lung, colon, prostate, and other cancers? But the costs of trials relative the potential profits leave it lurching? We're missing something.
At the same time I currently know a blonde, blue-eyed, knockout female resident at MD Anderson in Houston who spends her 40 hours a week working on taking a person's DNA, inserting it into several hundred living mice, and testing cancer treatments on a "personalized" basis. We're talking hundreds of thousands of mice in that basement. We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars.
It doesn't add up. It just doesn't.
At the same time I currently know a blonde, blue-eyed, knockout female resident at MD Anderson in Houston who spends her 40 hours a week working on taking a person's DNA, inserting it into several hundred living mice, and testing cancer treatments on a "personalized" basis. We're talking hundreds of thousands of mice in that basement. We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars.
It doesn't add up. It just doesn't.
Posted on 3/20/15 at 11:16 pm to derSturm37
No. I hear you.. I mean I don't pretend to know the science of all of it, just repeated what I heard.
Something stinks in Denmark and big pharma is the slimiest of them so I find it hard to put it past them.
Something stinks in Denmark and big pharma is the slimiest of them so I find it hard to put it past them.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:00 am to 3nOut
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No. I hear you.. I mean I don't pretend to know the science of all of it, just repeated what I heard.
Something stinks in Denmark and big pharma is the slimiest of them so I find it hard to put it past them.
If... IF... If I was inclined toward wanting to believe this conspiracy theory then this would be my first attempt at an hypothesis toward validating it:
Chemotherapy has come a long way since its origins. [This is a fact.]
Its success rate has climbed and its adverse effects have been abated. [Two facts.]
So let's say that Pharma Firma has spent so much money during the long process of developing these drugs [an obvious fact] that they're opting to continue these already established programs, instead of starting something (expensively) new.
They're banking that chemotherapy will ultimately prove as successful, if not more so, than this experimental drug in question.
In this light it's not that they don't care about curing cancer. It's that they believe they're already on the right track. (That they're so heavily invested obviously MIGHT sway their findings re the subject).
I could believe this. (Again, if I wanted to. I don't know enough to have an opinion). It all fits neatly with what I know, as well: the DNA & Mice experiments are, to my understanding, tied in heavily with current chemotherapies.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:13 am to derSturm37
If they could cure cancer Steve jobs would be alive
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:14 am to DocHoliday11
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If they could cure cancer Steve jobs would be alive
Good point.
Unless he is.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:29 am to derSturm37
Do do do do, do do do do
Or whatever the hell the twilight zone was
Or whatever the hell the twilight zone was
Posted on 3/21/15 at 8:41 am to DocHoliday11
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If they could cure cancer Steve jobs would be alive
Pancreatic cancer is the toughest bitch of them all.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 11:36 am to 3nOut
Lung cancer is a close second.
Posted on 3/21/15 at 12:12 pm to auggie
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