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Posted on 3/5/16 at 10:42 am to Kentucker
wow she nuts. but she also white. cop can't shoot her. dems the rules
should have tased the shite out of her though
should have tased the shite out of her though
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 11:23 am to MIZ_COU
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should have tased the shite out of her though
That would have been so sweet.
I don't know if you watched the video linked by GoldenDawg but there are several tasings of recalcitrant Sovereign Citizens in it. Very entertaining.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:15 pm to Kentucker
My favorite part:
Crazy chick: "you don't have to take my bag off while cuffing me"
Cop: "you're right I don't"
He then proceeds to cut off her bad and she goes ape shite.
I think I will steal a few cars today because I am an article IV free inhabitant, my Saturday just took a sharp turn to awesome town.
Crazy chick: "you don't have to take my bag off while cuffing me"
Cop: "you're right I don't"
He then proceeds to cut off her bad and she goes ape shite.
I think I will steal a few cars today because I am an article IV free inhabitant, my Saturday just took a sharp turn to awesome town.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 12:40 pm to GoldenDawg
From the YouTube comments of your video
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If you play this without the video it sounds like an assrape compilation
"I DO NOT CONSENT AHHHHH"
Posted on 3/5/16 at 2:31 pm to Kentucker
I'm an anarchist libertarian. AMA.
I'm not really familiar with this group and can't condone the actions of every individual that belongs to it.
That said, I don't disagree with their core philosophy. See Lysander Spooner on why the Constitution doesn't carry authority over those who don't consent.
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I'm not really familiar with this group and can't condone the actions of every individual that belongs to it.
That said, I don't disagree with their core philosophy. See Lysander Spooner on why the Constitution doesn't carry authority over those who don't consent.
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 3:38 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Anarchists come and they go, but the Constitution remains the solid, living document of this land.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 4:01 pm to Kentucker
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 4:39 pm to Kentucker
As a libertarian you are in a somewhat awkward position defending the Constitution.
It has either authorized the current government that we have (and all its actions - Obamacare, for instance) or has not been sufficient to prevent it.
It has either authorized the current government that we have (and all its actions - Obamacare, for instance) or has not been sufficient to prevent it.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 5:48 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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As a libertarian you are in a somewhat awkward position defending the Constitution.
Not awkward at all. The Constitution authorizes government.
Citizens determine the size and extent of that government. If all eligible citizens are treated equitably by that government and equal opportunity reigns supreme, then the Constitutional conditions are satisfied.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 7:21 pm to Kentucker
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If all eligible citizens are treated equitably by that government
Do you think this condition currently holds?
Do you think the government is currently acting in accordance to what you consider constitutional in every way?
Posted on 3/5/16 at 7:52 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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Do you think this condition currently holds?
No, but I think the intent and effort is there. Government is a dynamic entity. It constantly fluctuates.
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Do you think the government is currently acting in accordance to what you consider constitutional in every way?
No, of course not. It takes a lot of effort to keep some groups within the boundaries set by the Constitution. That's why I call it a living document.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 8:04 pm to Kentucker
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No, of course not. It takes a lot of effort to keep some groups within the boundaries set by the Constitution.
IMO, we aren't even close to keeping those groups within the boundaries. And we get further and further away over time.
I'm not opposed to Constitutional rhetoric... I think it's a useful document. At the end of the day I don't think it's adequate for maintaining liberties.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 8:10 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Well, it isn't perfect by any means but it's the best we've got. We've been living by it for over 200 years and we seem to be doing okay. I'll continue to support it.
Posted on 3/6/16 at 4:37 am to Kentucker
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Well, it isn't perfect by any means but it's the best we've got.
I don't think this is a very good justification for something that you are going to demand people adhere to.
You could have said the same thing about about any screwed up political system throughout history.
I'm sure we could keep going back and forth on this for a while, but I'm going to leave it here. My objective isn't to convince you - just wanted to present the arguments of anti-Constitution libertarians since there was a lot of blind vitriol being spewed at us in this thread. We aren't liberals or Bernie supporters. Not even close. Granted, it's an extreme point of view, but hopefully you can see - even if you strongly disagree - that for most of us it comes out of concern for individual liberty and there is a strong history of reasoned, and philosophical motivation at the idea's core. Most of us aren't out screaming at cops.
Posted on 3/6/16 at 9:59 am to The Sultan of Swine
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I don't think this is a very good justification for something that you are going to demand people adhere to.
I don't demand that anyone adhere to anything. If your life doesn't affect my life, then live it as you wish.
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Granted, it's an extreme point of view, but hopefully you can see - even if you strongly disagree - that for most of us it comes out of concern for individual liberty and there is a strong history of reasoned, and philosophical motivation at the idea's core.
The Libertarians I associate with understand the need for government and a Constitution that governs it. It's the size of that government and its degree of intrusion into our lives that we object to most.
The best kind of government, especially in a nation as big and diverse as is ours, includes strong local government, moderate state government and, weakest of all, federal government. That was the case when America was founded.
Things change with time. There is no hope that we could ever return to the way government existed when America began. The nation would have to be broken up.
We all have to function within our system as it is and work to change it if we disagree with it. We can't, as in the example of this thread's subject, declare ourselves to be apart from that system and not expect consequences.
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