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re: The stone cold truth to what's happening at Missouri.

Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:01 pm to
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but if these students felt this was necessary, then it was necessary.



Not necessarily...
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:03 pm to
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The fact that it came to this is because of poor leadership. Plain and simple. If Wolfe is out in front of this, addressing concerns, this doesn't happen, and he doesn't lose his job.



Well he did that but it didn't matter because #PoopSwastika.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:04 pm to
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If the conservative students had created a coalition to remove Wolfe from office because of his lack of action on a Planned Parenthood office being allowed to operate, and the players went on strike to support that position. Everyone of you would be in here today lauding the movement.


I'm a pretty firm supporter of Planned Parenthood, so no. And that's an issue that rises above the head of a University President, so I wouldn't feel he should be held responsible if I did support something like that.

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This isn't about blackmail or the liberal agenda. It's about leadership choosing to stand still on an issue that needed to be addressed. If a group of people feel threatened, they have every right to hope that said threat is addressed in a timely manner.


Since it seems pretty murky, can you as a Mizzou fan provide us with some comprehensive on what needed to be addressed? And why the University President himself should be addressing it? I've yet to see confirmation of the acts in question or at least some comprehensive list of what happened/when it happened to warrant the protest to begin with.

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I don't think there is one person on this board that can actually speak on the conditions of race relations at the University of Missouri. Not a single one. I'm pretty sure none of you know what it's like to be a minority on campus in Columbia. I certainly don't, but if these students felt this was necessary, then it was necessary.


Just because a group comes together for a cause, doesn't mean it's a worthy cause. This is essentially a straw man argument.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:06 pm to
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This guy is actually 100% right. And, if the shoe were on the other foot, you'd all agree.


No we wouldn't. For one...you have quite a few people in here who are okay with Planned Parenthood (though I am not among them). And even if something like the OP's scenario did happen, I would direct my anger towards the organization itself and not the president of the university.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:08 pm to
Sorry but I don't think anything justifies ruining a good man's life. Mr. Wolfe didn't deserve what happened to him.
Posted by Lg
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:09 pm to
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I'm pretty sure none of you know what it's like to be a minority on campus in Columbia.

I certainly don't, but if these students felt this was necessary, then it was necessary.


I do not. But, what if it doesn't stop what is going on on campus? Then what? Who gets fired next? What if it has nothing to do with actual students but some rednecks trying to stir stuff up? What if, by chance that people that actually go to Missouri football and basketball games do not feel the need to support their teams anymore? There are always consequences to decisions made and no matter how chivalrous you think supporting the cause is the repercussions could be more damaging.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:09 pm to
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This guy is actually 100% right. And, if the shoe were on the other foot, you'd all agree.



No, because women have the right to get an abortion in this country.

No one has the right to not be offended. Some drunk kids dropped a couple N bombs and now the university president has to step down. This is fricking RIDICULOUS.
Posted by Teague
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:11 pm to
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justifies ruining a good man's life


Please. People get fired/resign every day. He's in better shape than just about everyone on this board.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:12 pm to
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No one has the right to not be offended. Some drunk kids dropped a couple N bombs and now the university president has to step down. This is fricking RIDICULOUS.


Who are you and what have you done with Stonehog
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:12 pm to
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This isn't about blackmail or the liberal agenda. It's about leadership choosing to stand still on an issue that needed to be addressed. If a group of people feel threatened, they have every right to hope that said threat is addressed in a timely manner.



Of course it's about blackmail, don't delude yourself. Please, pray, tell, What could Wolfe had done? Should he have formed a blue ribbon committee to "investigate" white privilege/ racism in and around Columbia? Maybe he should have instituted some more group encounter sessions to explore racial code words.

Perhaps Wolfe could have required that all of the student line up for DNA testing so that they could mach the perpetrators to the feces swastika. Yes, would that have made all of the little liberal snowflakes happy.

Hey dude, newsflash , the only reason guys like Hansbrough are even in school is because he can play football. I would probably be safe in betting that his high school grades and ACT/SAT scores were not even good enough to get him into SEMO or Missouri State.

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I'm pretty sure none of you know what it's like to be a minority on campus in Columbia.


I'm sure it's terrible...I've heard about the weekly lynchings and Klan rallies out in public in front of all of the columns and Faurot Field.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:15 pm to
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I don't think there is one person on this board that can actually speak on the conditions of race relations at the University of Missouri


Killz apparently thinks he is an expert.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:19 pm to
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Remote Controlled


1. You are wrong.

2. You are stupid.

3. How do I know? Because you immediately begin your "argument" with a sweeping generalization.

Good luck in life as a moron with no critical thinking skills.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Who are you and what have you done with Stonehog


I'm just a garden variety lib-tard who is tired of getting freedoms taken away.

These Mizzou students are trying to control the way people THINK. That is so fricked up!
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:21 pm to
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certainly don't, but if these students felt this was necessary, then it was necessary.


They do seem like a wise and all knowing bunch
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27449 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:21 pm to
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some rednecks trying to stir stuff up


Probably closer to this and maybe some drunk frat boys one night. If you've ever spent more than about 2 hours in that part of Missouri ....or just about any part west of St Louis, just beyond 270 you'd hear it. The one place where you probably would not hear it all that much is Columbia which is a VERY liberal town.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:24 pm to
If only Wolfe hadn't insisted the poo swastika not get cleaned up, all these Jewish students wouldn't be so mad.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:25 pm to
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These Mizzou students are trying to control the way people THINK. That is so fricked up!




If Wolfe was racist or creating a racist environment, I could understand the protests, but he's not and he didn't.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:26 pm to
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Teague


Impressive. Each of your comments is dumber than the last.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140237 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:27 pm to
LOL, conservatives don't protest or loot.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:29 pm to
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If Wolfe was racist or creating a racist environment, I could understand the protests, but he's not and he didn't.


On one hand, I love watching liberals eat their own- It's great viewing entertainment. On the other, this is so fricked up and truly and indictment of our society.
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