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re: The Civil War: Why did your ancestors serve?

Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:13 am to
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:13 am to
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I know that this thread is kinda old, But I've been on Ancestry.com for the past month or so and as it turns out my great-great grandfather fought for the Confederacy in Arkansas. Shocked me (and my dad) due to the fact that my Great-Great Grandfather was black. I found it pretty ironic that I found this off after all that has happened over the past month or so.

Maybe he was a slave owner. You know, there were free black men in the south who owned slaves. Not many, but enough to make it an interesting historical footnote.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:27 pm to
There were also black slavecatchers.

Effective for obvious reasons.

What a fricked up era in our history.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:30 pm to
I am a member of the Order of the Stars and Bars as well as Sons of Confederate Veterans, qualified on both sides. My late grandfather told me stories that his great-grandfather (a captain in the AoNVA) told him as a child.

I'm also a member of Sons of the American Revolution, but only one side. The other side were Crown Royalists who fled to Alabama in 1784.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:48 pm to
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What a fricked up era in our history.

Yeah, you probably won't see those times on our nation's highlight reel.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:51 pm to
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My late grandfather told me stories that his great-grandfather (a captain in the AoNVA) told him as a child.

Maybe your peeps and mine exchanged shots at Gettysburg. I have a great-great-something-or-other that was wounded there. Ohio volunteer.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:56 pm to
I now realize that the title was 'Why' not 'Which'.

The enlisted members were yeoman farmers who were conscripted, while the officers were small plantation owners who, obviously, were fighting to keep their slaves as well as some notion of honor and service to their state.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:59 pm to
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y Carolina Tide
I know that this thread is kinda old, But I've been on Ancestry.com for the past month or so and as it turns out my great-great grandfather fought for the Confederacy in Arkansas. Shocked me (and my dad) due to the fact that my Great-Great Grandfather was black. I found it pretty ironic that I found this off after all that has happened over the past month or so.






So does this change your opinion of the confederate flag?




































Sorry I had to do it
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:42 pm to
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Maybe he was a slave owner. You know, there were free black men in the south who owned slaves. Not many, but enough to make it an interesting historical footnote.



Doubtful, as he was in his 20's when the Civil War started, but you never know. I'm pretty sure he was free. He was already married at the time.

Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:44 pm to
If it is true (because you never truly know when it comes to these old documents) probably not.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:47 pm to
Sorry I couldn't resist!
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:50 pm to
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Why did your ancestors serve?


They were bought and told the "serving" was their job or else get the whip?

This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 2:54 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:04 pm to
My Great Great Great grandfather (Owned the Destrehan Plantation in New Orleans along with many businesses on Canal St, and a riverboat) and his nephew were some of the wealthiest plantation owners in Louisiana. My Great 3x Grandfather died in the late 1850s, his nephew had a plantation that was located on the site that LSU was built on...to my knowledge he didn't fight in the war but did support and contributed funds to it. He lost everything after the war and the Gov't used the land to build Louisiana State University.

So, you're welcome.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:20 pm to
I'd have to ask my grandparents and those in my family that have kept up with our heritage. Knowing the history that I've been told I'd imagine they fought for the Confederacy though as they were from North Carolina
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:21 pm to
I had a great-great grandfather that served in the Confederate Army. The history we have states that he did NOT do so to support slavery, he did so bc he detested Yankees and everything the North stood for. Entries in his diary describe serving alongside black Confederate Soldiers and he stated that he "didn't believe that any human should ever own another human."
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Maybe he was a slave owner. You know, there were free black men in the south who owned slaves. Not many, but enough to make it an interesting historical footnote.



towards the very end of the civil war Davis mandated that slaves take up arms and that any slaves that took up arms against the union would be granted freedom. quite a few black people fought for the confederate army
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22375 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:20 pm to
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Most confederates ended up deserting. Lee had to surrender at Appomattox because most of his army simply got up and went home


Lies. Lies. Lies. You are as full of shite as a Christmas turkey.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 10:21 pm
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:46 pm to
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Lies. Lies. Lies. You are as full of shite as a Christmas turkey.

it's true. towards the end of the war as many as 200 a day were leaving. can't blame them they were getting the shite beat out of them, they had no food, alot had no shoes and after sherman's march it was apparent they weren't going to win
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:54 pm to
I don't know if any did, the were so far back in the swamps they may not of known a war was going on.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:07 am to
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towards the very end of the civil war Davis mandated that slaves take up arms and that any slaves that took up arms against the union would be granted freedom. quite a few black people fought for the confederate army

In other words, slaves would be granted freedom for fighting for a nation that legally sanctioned slavery.

White folks be
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85800 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:27 am to
quote:

My Great Great Great grandfather (Owned the Destrehan Plantation in New Orleans along with many businesses on Canal St, and a riverboat) and his nephew were some of the wealthiest plantation owners in Louisiana. My Great 3x Grandfather died in the late 1850s, his nephew had a plantation that was located on the site that LSU was built on...to my knowledge he didn't fight in the war but did support and contributed funds to it. He lost everything after the war and the Gov't used the land to build Louisiana State University.



That's actually pretty cool.
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