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re: The Civil War: Why did your ancestors serve?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:13 am to Carolina Tide
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:13 am to Carolina Tide
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I know that this thread is kinda old, But I've been on Ancestry.com for the past month or so and as it turns out my great-great grandfather fought for the Confederacy in Arkansas. Shocked me (and my dad) due to the fact that my Great-Great Grandfather was black. I found it pretty ironic that I found this off after all that has happened over the past month or so.
Maybe he was a slave owner. You know, there were free black men in the south who owned slaves. Not many, but enough to make it an interesting historical footnote.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:27 pm to TigerPanzer
There were also black slavecatchers.
Effective for obvious reasons.
What a fricked up era in our history.
Effective for obvious reasons.
What a fricked up era in our history.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:30 pm to Tigerwaffe
I am a member of the Order of the Stars and Bars as well as Sons of Confederate Veterans, qualified on both sides. My late grandfather told me stories that his great-grandfather (a captain in the AoNVA) told him as a child.
I'm also a member of Sons of the American Revolution, but only one side. The other side were Crown Royalists who fled to Alabama in 1784.
I'm also a member of Sons of the American Revolution, but only one side. The other side were Crown Royalists who fled to Alabama in 1784.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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What a fricked up era in our history.
Yeah, you probably won't see those times on our nation's highlight reel.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:51 pm to HempHead
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My late grandfather told me stories that his great-grandfather (a captain in the AoNVA) told him as a child.
Maybe your peeps and mine exchanged shots at Gettysburg. I have a great-great-something-or-other that was wounded there. Ohio volunteer.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:56 pm to TigerPanzer
I now realize that the title was 'Why' not 'Which'.
The enlisted members were yeoman farmers who were conscripted, while the officers were small plantation owners who, obviously, were fighting to keep their slaves as well as some notion of honor and service to their state.
The enlisted members were yeoman farmers who were conscripted, while the officers were small plantation owners who, obviously, were fighting to keep their slaves as well as some notion of honor and service to their state.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:59 pm to Carolina Tide
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y Carolina Tide
I know that this thread is kinda old, But I've been on Ancestry.com for the past month or so and as it turns out my great-great grandfather fought for the Confederacy in Arkansas. Shocked me (and my dad) due to the fact that my Great-Great Grandfather was black. I found it pretty ironic that I found this off after all that has happened over the past month or so.
So does this change your opinion of the confederate flag?
Sorry I had to do it
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:42 pm to TigerPanzer
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Maybe he was a slave owner. You know, there were free black men in the south who owned slaves. Not many, but enough to make it an interesting historical footnote.
Doubtful, as he was in his 20's when the Civil War started, but you never know. I'm pretty sure he was free. He was already married at the time.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:44 pm to Agforlife
If it is true (because you never truly know when it comes to these old documents) probably not.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:47 pm to Carolina Tide
Sorry I couldn't resist!
Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:50 pm to Tigerwaffe
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Why did your ancestors serve?
They were bought and told the "serving" was their job or else get the whip?
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:04 pm to Tigerwaffe
My Great Great Great grandfather (Owned the Destrehan Plantation in New Orleans along with many businesses on Canal St, and a riverboat) and his nephew were some of the wealthiest plantation owners in Louisiana. My Great 3x Grandfather died in the late 1850s, his nephew had a plantation that was located on the site that LSU was built on...to my knowledge he didn't fight in the war but did support and contributed funds to it. He lost everything after the war and the Gov't used the land to build Louisiana State University.
So, you're welcome.
So, you're welcome.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:20 pm to Tigerwaffe
I'd have to ask my grandparents and those in my family that have kept up with our heritage. Knowing the history that I've been told I'd imagine they fought for the Confederacy though as they were from North Carolina
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:21 pm to Tigerwaffe
I had a great-great grandfather that served in the Confederate Army. The history we have states that he did NOT do so to support slavery, he did so bc he detested Yankees and everything the North stood for. Entries in his diary describe serving alongside black Confederate Soldiers and he stated that he "didn't believe that any human should ever own another human."
Posted on 7/21/15 at 5:36 pm to Carolina_Girl
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Maybe he was a slave owner. You know, there were free black men in the south who owned slaves. Not many, but enough to make it an interesting historical footnote.
towards the very end of the civil war Davis mandated that slaves take up arms and that any slaves that took up arms against the union would be granted freedom. quite a few black people fought for the confederate army
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:20 pm to Stonehog
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Most confederates ended up deserting. Lee had to surrender at Appomattox because most of his army simply got up and went home
Lies. Lies. Lies. You are as full of shite as a Christmas turkey.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:46 pm to AU86
quote:it's true. towards the end of the war as many as 200 a day were leaving. can't blame them they were getting the shite beat out of them, they had no food, alot had no shoes and after sherman's march it was apparent they weren't going to win
Lies. Lies. Lies. You are as full of shite as a Christmas turkey.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:54 pm to Tigerwaffe
I don't know if any did, the were so far back in the swamps they may not of known a war was going on.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:07 am to vengeanceofrain
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towards the very end of the civil war Davis mandated that slaves take up arms and that any slaves that took up arms against the union would be granted freedom. quite a few black people fought for the confederate army
In other words, slaves would be granted freedom for fighting for a nation that legally sanctioned slavery.
White folks be
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:27 am to deltaland
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My Great Great Great grandfather (Owned the Destrehan Plantation in New Orleans along with many businesses on Canal St, and a riverboat) and his nephew were some of the wealthiest plantation owners in Louisiana. My Great 3x Grandfather died in the late 1850s, his nephew had a plantation that was located on the site that LSU was built on...to my knowledge he didn't fight in the war but did support and contributed funds to it. He lost everything after the war and the Gov't used the land to build Louisiana State University.
That's actually pretty cool.
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