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re: Teen in Georgia killed, officer related shooting
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:20 am to Korin
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:20 am to Korin
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The problem is cops never being held accountable
I don't think a police officer needs a sidearm if he is just on patrol. I don't understand why an officer needs a killing weapon just driving around the neighborhood.
In the UK they call in reinforcement with guns if a situation arises. It just works. People don't have to worry about trigger happy cops.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 10:21 am
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:36 am to jwuga
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I doubt the officers' version of the story. The warrant was not for the kid, but for his father. What I heard on the news was it was for probation violation for a misdemeanor.
I do too. Also do people not realize warrants are issued all the time and they don't mean you're a thug? Towns/cities in the state of Tennessee issue them for things like unpaid speeding tickets -- no one goes knocking on your door but if you're pulled over in that area you're gonna have to pay up. And probabtion? Well it's given for everything from Public Intox (could happen to anyone attending a game) Disorderly conduct (could mean anything from actually being disorderly to applauding your kids graduation *yes that happened* to an officer not liking the cut of your jib) reckless driving (get caught going 45 in a school zone or speed zone - you thug!) and so many other misdemeanors that are really a waste of court and police time and resources that it's not even funny.
Most people on probation aren't actually bad people or even accused of anything law-abiding upper middle class citizens don't do regularly. Those on probation just caught a cop on a bad day and couldn't afford an attorney.
IOW, even if the probation violation warrant had been for the victim rather than for his dad it wouldn't've told us squat about him or been enough to label him a tPOS. And it sure as hell wouldn't justify killing him.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:37 am to MagicCityBlazer
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In the UK they call in reinforcement with guns if a situation arises. It just works. People don't have to worry about trigger happy cops.
and cops(in the UK) dont have to worry about trigger happy people
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:39 am to MagicCityBlazer
Officers on patrol routinely get called in as backup in violent situations where a firearm may be needed. There's nothing wrong with officers carrying firearms for their safety as well as for stopping violence. The problem is with the bad eggs who are undisciplined (at best) and evil (at worst).
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:39 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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They just have soldiers being beheaded in the streets.
A machete almost guarantees you power and that's pretty scary. Same for South America.
Actually it wasn't the machete but the fact that they ran that soldier down with a car. He never had a chance after they intentionally ran over him. The machete was for us "the audience" that those sickos wanted.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:43 am to FooManChoo
The problem is most cops are bad eggs
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:53 am to heartbreakTiger
quote:It may seem that way if you've had your share of run-ins, but "most" cops are doing their jobs, by the book, and not showing up in the news for bad shoots or excessive force. And a bad attitude doesn't necessarily mean a bad egg.
The problem is most cops are bad eggs
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:57 am to Vols&Shaft83
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I seriously doubt that it went down like the family member said it did. It's possible, but unlikely based on the info in those links. 2 Probation warrants, 17 year old punk, trailer park
Agreed. Kid obviously had this coming..........
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:07 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Cops shouldn't carry a piece unless they are responding to a call that indicates violence.
I've been to the UK and love that about their police officers. You don't see them getting into gunfights with unarmed teenagers there.
Police in the UK don't need guns because there are very few guns in the UK to begin with. There are almost as many guns in the US as there are people.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:08 am to NYCAuburn
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and cops(in the UK) dont have to worry about trigger happy people
There are weapons everywhere in the UK. Fewer guns doesn't mean entirely disarmed.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:10 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:13 am to Prof
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Actually it wasn't the machete but the fact that they ran that soldier down with a car. He never had a chance after they intentionally ran over him. The machete was for us "the audience" that those sickos wanted.
They cut his head off with the car too?
How long did it take for people to actually put those freaks down? Enough for them to give an interview to a camera, eh?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:14 am to MagicCityBlazer
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What in the world are you talking about?
UK police don't accidentally shoot teenagers because most of them don't carry guns.
I don't know where you got the machete talk.
No one's faulting you for not keeping up with the news.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:15 am to MagicCityBlazer
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There are guns and knives everywhere. More violent than the usa.
Whut? You know there's a lot of myth to that. In the UK 'violence' is classified differently and they keep better crime stats than we do.
Honestly, would you rather (a) get into a shoving match or possible fisticuffs outside a pub (b) get shot to death for being in the wrong place at the wrong time? THAT is the difference between the UK and US in terms of crime. Also, in the UK you have to go to specific areas to encounter violence on the streets -- seek it out. Here, damn near anywhere can erupt in violence at any time. Now they do have a problem with youth violence in that clubs and the occasional knife are used to rob people and more rarely beat someone up but I'd take that over a typical American teen.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:15 am to Person of interest
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Please tell me you're not comparing homicide rates in the UK with us, it's not even close
This is borderline autistic. There's no way you could get that from what I posted.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:22 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Please tell me you're not comparing homicide rates in the UK with us, it's not even close
This is borderline autistic. There's no way you could get that from what I posted.
As far as I could tell there wasn't a substantive point to your post.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:23 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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A machete almost guarantees you power and that's pretty scary. Same for South America.
if i lived there i'd be all like
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:25 am to Prof
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Honestly, would you rather (a) get into a shoving match or possible fisticuffs outside a pub (b) get shot to death for being in the wrong place at the wrong time? THAT is the difference between the UK and US in terms of crime.
Just not even close to being true.
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Britain has a higher crime rate than any other rich nation except Australia, according to a survey yesterday.
The chances of having your car stolen are greater in England and Wales than anywhere else in the developed world, it said.
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According to the figures released yesterday, 3.6 per cent of the population of England and Wales were victims of violent crime in 1999 - second only to Australia, where the figure was 4.1 per cent.
Scotland had a slightly lower rate of violence, at 3.4 per cent.
In the U.S., only 2 per cent of the population suffered an assault or robbery.
LINK
Let's focus on the USA, considering this is where that otherwise innocent teenage boy was shot and killed while unarmed.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:26 am to MagicCityBlazer
The daily mail. 
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:29 am to Prof
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According to the Sydney-based Institute for Economics and Peace, the U.K. had 933 violent crimes per 100,000 people in 2012, down from 1,255 in 2003. In the U.S., the figure for 2010 was 399 violent crimes per 100,000 people. Still, while the U.S. violent-crime rate is less than half Britain’s,
Bloomberg
Here's a bloomberg link if you don't like the Daily Mail.
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The UK had a greater number of murders in 2007 than any other EU country – 927 – and at a relative rate higher than most western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
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It also recorded the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU, and the highest absolute number of burglaries, with double the number of offences recorded in Germany and France.
Overall, 5.4 million crimes were recorded in the UK in 2007 - more than 10 a minute - second only to Sweden.
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It means there are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the UK, making it the most violent place in Europe.
Telegraph
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:31 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:31 am to MagicCityBlazer
i think there are undoubtedly cities in the USA which are far more dangerous than cities in the UK. but we also have a ton of small towns with very low crime rates.
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