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re: Ted Cruz announces candidacy.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:51 am to cokebottleag
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:51 am to cokebottleag
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Ted Cruz belongs as a firebrand Senator, not a presidential candidate.
agreed. i mean i'd vote for him over any Dem nominee that's been thrown around at this point, but he wouldn't be my first vote.
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He is a male Sarah Palin;
Palin was/is a buffoon. Cruz may be the smartest guy in Washington
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:16 pm to 5thTiger
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Thoughts?
Vote 3rd party and judge all politicians in office with the Salem Witch Trial model.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:34 pm to 3nOut
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Cruz may be the smartest guy in Washington
Then why is the smartest guy in Washington, running for an office he's not allowed to hold?
He wasn't born in America.
Edit: ahh, he is smart pretty smart. He seems to have found a loophole with his parents citizenship.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:38 pm to CCTider
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He wasn't born in America.
and you think our current president was?
not a truther, but his citizenship is the exact same as President Obama.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:45 pm to 3nOut
Yes, I think Obama was born in Hawaii. I didn't realize Alberta was a state.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:52 pm to 5thTiger
As someone on FB posted, "he seem like a guy who received a lot of wedgies when he was younger".
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:03 pm to CCTider
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Yes, I think Obama was born in Hawaii. I didn't realize Alberta was a state.
he was born to an american parent and non american parent. Cruz has had citizenship since birth.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:04 pm to 5thTiger
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:06 pm to 3nOut
Cruz to me has two big problems in actually winning the White House.
1. He's bright and he knows it. The good side is that he's quick on his feet. The bad is he thinks this will get him out of trouble when he gaffes. I have seen nothing to suggest he has the discipline to run the Presidential slog without making too many mistakes.
2. He too conservative base. This could help in primary season, but won't win a general. Whoever the Dems nominate would just have to stick to the middle and sweep the swing states with moderates who will find Cruz too extreme.
He's perfect to keep the base buzzing, but that doesn't win the President. Like someone on the Poliboard said, he's a one state candidate in a 50 state race.
1. He's bright and he knows it. The good side is that he's quick on his feet. The bad is he thinks this will get him out of trouble when he gaffes. I have seen nothing to suggest he has the discipline to run the Presidential slog without making too many mistakes.
2. He too conservative base. This could help in primary season, but won't win a general. Whoever the Dems nominate would just have to stick to the middle and sweep the swing states with moderates who will find Cruz too extreme.
He's perfect to keep the base buzzing, but that doesn't win the President. Like someone on the Poliboard said, he's a one state candidate in a 50 state race.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:13 pm to 3nOut
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he was born to an american parent and non american parent. Cruz has had citizenship since birth
the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth." Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an "alien" required to go through the legal process of "naturalization" to become a U.S. citizen.[1]
So if he did not require a certificate of naturalization..... he is a US Citizen.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:24 pm to 5thTiger
Marco Rubio is the only Republican with a chance of winning, and I say that if he can get enough Latinos out based on name alone but I think that only matters this election and this election only. Millenials are the Republicans worst nightmare. The problem for Republicans is on social issues they will time and time lose on at a national level. There will be a Democrat in office until the Republicans nominate someone pro-gay marriage and pro-choice. Beyond social issues student debt is the millenials biggest concern and the Republicans won't offer common sense solutions to lowering the cost of education because the conservative wing will label it socialist.
The Democrats can do whatever they want but I usually dislike liberal solutions to problems. It sucks but Hillary is moving back in the White House.
The Democrats can do whatever they want but I usually dislike liberal solutions to problems. It sucks but Hillary is moving back in the White House.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:32 pm to TeLeFaWx
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the Republicans nominate someone pro-gay marriage and pro-choice.
i think people on the other side greatly underestimate the pro-life movement and their fervor.
i can give or take a lot of movement on issues, but i cannot vote for a pro choice candidate. i hate to give credence that much to a single social issue but i feel that passionately about it and as much as you'd like to marginalize the evangelical base, they vote a lot. i could go into more detail, but i don't think a pro-choice republican could ever get out of the primaries. pro-gay? sure. drug legalizer? you bet.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:33 pm to TeLeFaWx
I wouldn't agree with that. I think there are multiple Republicans who can win the general. Jeb Bush is one, John Kasich (although I don't think he can win the primary), perhaps Scott Walker.
The Republicans have been hijacked by Tea Party conservatives who have rolled social issues to the forefront of the party. They have alienated many social groups from supporting them.
I'm not sure the Dems run Hillary. I'd expect another candidate like Obama who came from nowhere to win the nomination.
The Republicans have been hijacked by Tea Party conservatives who have rolled social issues to the forefront of the party. They have alienated many social groups from supporting them.
I'm not sure the Dems run Hillary. I'd expect another candidate like Obama who came from nowhere to win the nomination.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:34 pm to 3nOut
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but i don't think a pro-choice republican could ever get out of the primaries.
I disagree and think you vastly underestimate how many people, conservative and liberal, are pro choice. Bring pro life = losing the women vote.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:34 pm to 5thTiger
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The Republicans have been hijacked by Tea Party conservatives who have rolled social issues to the forefront of the party. They have alienated many social groups from supporting them.
you seem to mischaracterize one side a lot more than the other for somebody who claims to be in the middle.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:40 pm to 5thTiger
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The Republicans have been hijacked by Tea Party conservatives who have rolled social issues to the forefront of the party. They have alienated many social groups from supporting them.
That's what everyone keeps saying. I guess it doesn't matter if it's true.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:40 pm to 3nOut
Another fiscally conservative moderate on the Internet. Liars almost to a man.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:40 pm to cas4t
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I disagree and think you vastly underestimate how many people, conservative and liberal, are pro choice. Bring pro life = losing the women vote.
the nation is a 51+% pro life and i disagree respectfully but wholeheartedly with your assertion. you could find polls to find it either way depending on which you're looking for, but we are historically still a nation that favors pro-life. we've shifted to sub 50% against gay marriage and are getting there if not already on drug legalization.
a republican claiming pro choice is not going to win a single extra vote in the primaries, but i can guarantee they would lose some.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:40 pm to 3nOut
It's common sense really. Moderate Republicans who attempt to work with Democrats get crushed by the far right.
FWIW if the election were tomorrow and it was John Kasich vs Hillary, I'd likely vote Kasich.
FWIW if the election were tomorrow and it was John Kasich vs Hillary, I'd likely vote Kasich.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:41 pm to 5thTiger
What happens to moderate Democrats that work with the right? Ask Joe Lieberman.
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