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re: Spin Off from the Spin Off : What is the Deep South?
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The Boot
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:19 pm to lsufball19
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what is your definition of the deep south?
I cannot say what the defining characteristics of the deep south are. I have no idea. In my mind, I would call the founding states of the confederacy the deep south - though I do not know exactly how that definition would still define these states today.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Oh yea, exactly. The oldest, most Southern along with parts of coastal NC and Virginia. I think the culture, language and history of those areas is almost more colonial in nature than Alabama, Mississippi, Middle and West Georgia.
Personally it is my favorite part of the country.
Now we're talking. The Geechee/Gullah culture of the Sea Islands is so unique. Listening in at a gas station or sweetgrass basket stand makes you think you're in the Caribbean.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:19 pm to sjmabry
Memphis's nickname is the MidSouth.
Midsouth =/= Deep south
Midsouth =/= Deep south
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:20 pm to sjmabry
I just think this type of stuff is really interesting. My mom's family is from Black Belt Alabama (definition of the Deep South), dad's family is from North Alabama (much more Upper South), was born in Atlanta (metro South) and was raised the second half of life in East Tennessee (Appalachia).
They are just all very different, yet when you go somewhere like the Upper Midwest or New England all those differences that seem so big suddenly fade away.
I enjoy it.
They are just all very different, yet when you go somewhere like the Upper Midwest or New England all those differences that seem so big suddenly fade away.
I enjoy it.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:21 pm to fillmoregandt
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Memphis's nickname is the MidSouth.
Midsouth =/= Deep south
I agree. Memphis does not feel very different than some mid-western cities.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:21 pm to GeorgeReymond
Starting at Texarkana, draw a line at a 45 degrees through the center of downtown Little Rock, to the Missouri bootheel. West and north of that is mostly hill country/mountains, south and east of that is mostly flatlands/row crops/delta.
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Because Memphis, culture wise, should be in Mississippi.
Sort of. Virtually all of the city's black population came from slaves who fled Mississippi to Tennessee during and after the Civil War but it was never a traditional Deep South city. There is no doubt it has a more Deep South feel culturally than most parts of the state and Mississippi's influence due to proximity and Mississippians migrating there even today influences it but it also still maintains its Tennessee identity as much as we might joke about it being Mississippi. If we're going to get detailed about it's kind of an in-between zone that has aspects of both.
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:21 pm to fillmoregandt
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Memphis's nickname is the MidSouth. Midsouth =/= Deep south
I mean yea, I agree. You could probably make some sort of Mississippi River subset as well. All of the Delta has lots of similar traits. Which is an example of how even in the 21st century geography still plays a major part in our culture and how we act and think.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:22 pm to zou_keeper
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I agree. Memphis does not feel very different than some mid-western cities.
I definitely wouldn't go that far.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Lafayette and some parts of the middle of LA have more south in them than most of South Carolina and Tennessee
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:33 pm to Pettifogger
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My only questions:
Should Northern LA be included? Isn't it really rednecky and Southern Baptist?
Should New Orleans be included? It's obviously an integral part of southern culture, but arguably is a culture unto itself.
Ditto for low country SC.
North LA is more Mississippi/Deep South than Southern Louisiana. I'd say that South LA is pretty distinct from other parts of the South East.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:34 pm to Tooncesridesagain
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South LA is pretty distinct from other parts of the South East.
It definitely has it's own thing going.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 4:34 pm to SwampyLSU
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Lafayette and some parts of the middle of LA have more south in them than most of South Carolina and Tennessee
I wouldn't say most of South Carolina, but the upstate parts, probably.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:04 pm to zou_keeper
You dont think Memphis is deep south? You are a frickin idiot
Also include Arkansas delta. A line from Monticello to Pine Bluff along Crowleys Ridge to Jonesboro should do nicely
Also include Arkansas delta. A line from Monticello to Pine Bluff along Crowleys Ridge to Jonesboro should do nicely
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:23 pm to Prof
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Virtually all of the city's black population came from slaves who fled Mississippi to Tennessee during and after the Civil War but it was never a traditional Deep South city.
The slaves did not flee to Memphis until it was taken over by the North after the Battle of Memphis, not because Memphis was sympathetic to the emancipation movement. Prior to that, Memphis was a major slave trading city and west Tennessee was one of, if not the biggest cotton trading areas (and still is). Who do you think worked those cotton fields? Memphis is very much a traditional deep southern city in every way imaginable. It just happens to be a larger city population wise so it doesn't have as many backwater rednecks, which is what I assume most people like to think of when they "deep south," however misguided that opinion may be.
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Deep South IMO
I cutoff in the Franklin/Murfreesboro areas of Tennessee because there is still a lot of cotton produced there. Included the easternmost portion of Texas because it is like Louisiana. Cutout the Appalachian portions of AL, GA and SC
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:20 pm to BigOrangeBri
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because there is still a lot of cotton produced there.
Then you need to include the Texas panhandle because that's all there is up there
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:24 pm to Agforlife
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Then you need to include the Texas panhandle because that's all there is up there
Too far west, bro
Posted on 4/21/15 at 9:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Do you even east tx bro?
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