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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:04 am to scrooster
Jesus guys, it's just a form of ADR. fricking relax.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:06 am to scrooster
Islamic contract law is surprisingly equitable. At least the principles of if are.
But seriously, all this is is arbitration. This is no worse than agreeing to let Judge Joe Brown hear your "case" on TV, except that's mediation and is binding.
But seriously, all this is is arbitration. This is no worse than agreeing to let Judge Joe Brown hear your "case" on TV, except that's mediation and is binding.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:21 am to Tornado Alley
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Jesus guys, it's just a form of ADR. fricking relax.
Yeah and that's how it started in Europe, as non-binding ADR.
Now they have entire neighborhoods and towns that operate on it, and its binding.
All you communists on this board would be wailing and gnashing your teeth if this was a christian 'tribunal' for commercial issues. We should be allied on this. We cannot allow Islamo-fascism to take root in America!
NOT ONE STEP BACK!
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:27 am to cokebottleag
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Yeah and that's how it started in Europe, as non-binding ADR.
Now they have entire neighborhoods and towns that operate on it, and its binding.
A) Check the Federal Arbitration Act. Federal courts are handcuffed as to the particulars of an arbitration agreement, outside of checking for general principles of fairness.
B) You can't seriously think they're gonna usurp federal law, right?
See Art. VI, cl. 2, U.S. Const.
C) I'm a conservative republican and I personally don't care if you entered into a non-binding arbitration agreement based on Judeo-Christian legal principles (lol). If you're gonna take a dispute out of the courts, don't bitch if due process isn't present, among other things.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:27 am to scrooster
Friggin Muslims in Texas... we're doomed.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:39 am to Tornado Alley
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B) You can't seriously think they're gonna usurp federal law, right?
No, just get it changed.
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A) Check the Federal Arbitration Act. Federal courts are handcuffed as to the particulars of an arbitration agreement, outside of checking for general principles of fairness.
States aren't I'll bet.
40 years ago, you'd have laughed as well if I told you gay marriage would be legal. Times and attitudes change slowly over time. 20 years from now it'll be "well let them have their Sharia courts, even if they are binding. You have to be a muslim to go to one right? Live and let live."
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:44 am to cokebottleag
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States aren't I'll bet.
Yes, they are. Congress has completely preempted state action in terms of ADR regulation.
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40 years ago, you'd have laughed as well if I told you gay marriage would be legal. Times and attitudes change slowly over time. 20 years from now it'll be "well let them have their Sharia courts, even if they are binding. You have to be a muslim to go to one right? Live and let live."
Gay marriage =/= the implementation of Sharia law
Jeeze
Allowing binding Sharia courts to be set up and operated would be a clear violation of the First fricking Amendment's Establishment Clause. Do you know what the Establishment Clause is? Good lord
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:45 am to Tornado Alley
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C) I'm a conservative republican and I personally don't care if you entered into a non-binding arbitration agreement based on Judeo-Christian legal principles (lol). If you're gonna take a dispute out of the courts, don't bitch if due process isn't present, among other things.
Choosing to live a certian way under a non-binding ADR is fine, but forcefully dragging your whole family under you (in pure Sharia fashion) is wrong, along with other internal religious workings that would normally be illegal in the form of violated rights..
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:45 am to cokebottleag
quote:Hold your horses there. That's what half the country thought about the mooslum getting elected chief liar too, and look where we are.
Texans aren't going to stand for this.
Just another step in the process.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:48 am to Hardy_Har
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but forcefully dragging your whole family under you (in pure Sharia fashion) is wrong, along with other internal religious workings that would normally be illegal in the form of violated rights..
I never said it wasn't wrong, I just said there's nothing you or I can do about it.
Your right to raise your children how you see fit is an implied Constitutional right, as the SCOTUS has held time and time again. As such, any legislation or governmental control of that right is subject to strict scrutiny.
If you're wondering, I killed Con Law. I love it. It's so interesting.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:49 am to Tornado Alley
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Allowing binding Sharia courts to be set up and operated would be a clear violation of the First fricking Amendment's Establishment Clause. Do you know what the Establishment Clause is? Good lord
Stop being wrong on the internet!
Do I really need to list off the litany of clear violations of the bill of rights that the federal government currently allows?
As long as the courts aren't taking federal money, the left (which pushes the whole freedom from religion crap) isn't going to do dick shite about their favorite pet religious minority.
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Gay marriage =/= the implementation of Sharia law
I know. I'm making an analogy about changing attitudes. Do you want me to use the Patriot Act, or de-segregation? Same principle.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:02 am to cokebottleag
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Do I really need to list off the litany of clear violations of the bill of rights that the federal government currently allows?
As long as the courts aren't taking federal money, the left (which pushes the whole freedom from religion crap) isn't going to do dick shite about their favorite pet religious minority.
Well, why don't you sue on behalf of all aggrieved Americans (you won't have standing, first of all) claiming this is a breach of your First Amendment rights?
If you, cokebottleag, wanted to have Carrot Top preside over your arbitration hearing and only speak pig latin within the proceedings, you could do it and there's nothing anyone could do about it.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:09 am to Hardy_Har
We should bomb their office with kindness
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:11 am to DMagic
I don't know why everyone is freaking out. This is obviously something #TheNetwork will sort out.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:13 am to Tornado Alley
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If you, cokebottleag, wanted to have Carrot Top preside over your arbitration hearing and only speak pig latin within the proceedings, you could do it and there's nothing anyone could do about it.
No I can't, I already asked him and he said no. a-hole.
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Well, why don't you sue on behalf of all aggrieved Americans (you won't have standing, first of all) claiming this is a breach of your First Amendment rights?
What, and give the federal government access to my memories? Hell no. Are you crazy?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:16 am to cokebottleag
You have obviously conceded defeat.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:55 am to Tornado Alley
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If you're wondering, I killed Con Law. I love it. It's so interesting.
I don't care about your Con Law class. I've watched Muslims beat and frick their kids and deny their wives basic rights, such as walking outside, driving being a human etc all under Sharia law in Canada and the Middle East. When you stop looking at it as a religious option and see what it comprises of you'll understand why I'm saying it should be illegal.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:56 am to scrooster
The local electorate should vote out anyone who supported this shite.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:59 am to Hardy_Har
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I've watched Muslims beat and frick their kids and deny their wives basic rights, such as walking outside, driving being a human etc all under Sharia law in Canada and the Middle East. When you stop looking at it as a religious option and see what it comprises of you'll understand why I'm saying it should be illegal.
So none of this occured in the United States?
Why should I care.
Also, it is a principle of the First Amendment that the government cannot outlaw any religion.
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