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Rommel Vs Patton
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:46 am
Who was the better General?
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:52 am to trickydick12
"Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!"
Patton. When unleashed, he could do more with less. They were both hamstrung by their leadership.
Patton. When unleashed, he could do more with less. They were both hamstrung by their leadership.
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:54 am to trickydick12
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Rommel
If his superior officers had let him run the show we would all be speaking German now.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:56 am to Cheese Grits
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If his superior officers had let him run the show we would all be speaking German now.
Good point. Rommel may haven been a better strategic thinker (thus his being put in charge of D-Day defenses). Patton may have been a better tactician.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:00 am to trickydick12
You remember that thing we had about 60 years ago, called the Korean conflict? Yeah, and how we failed to achieve victory. How come we didn't cross the 38th Parallel and push those rice-eaters back to the Great Wall of China, then take the fricking wall apart BRICK BY BRICK and NUKE THEM BACK INTO THE frickING STONE AGE FOREVER! Tell me why, how come, SAY IT! SAY IT!
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:08 am to Vols&Shaft83
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You remember that thing we had about 60 years ago, called the Korean conflict?
Yes, course I am old
USA was all the way at the top, then all those Chinese came streaming across the border like waves of the undead and pushed us back. Cockroaches, rats, and chinamen could all probably survive nuclear war. Sending Tricky Dick in may have been the best weapon of all and probably better than any nuke.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:13 am to trickydick12
Both were better for their nations' logistical situations.
Guderian was better than both.
Guderian was better than both.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:09 pm to DownSouthJukin
If Rommel had the material resources available to Patton, he'd have conquered the oil fields of Arabia and starved the Allies of this desperately needed war material. Rommel was a better soldier, leader and man than Patton.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:42 pm to trickydick12
Patton since Rommel was not a General.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:55 pm to sms151t
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Patton since Rommel was not a General.
Considering that 'Field Marshal' is not a rank in the U.S. military, I think we can safely call it an equivalent of a flag officer.
ETA: Quick googling tells me that it is the equivalent of an O10, or a 5* general.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:00 pm to HempHead
But the question asked was who was a better General, not who was a better officer or who was a better tactician.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:18 pm to sms151t
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But the question asked was who was a better General, not who was a better officer or who was a better tactician.
Stupid line of thinking...
Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:29 pm to trickydick12
quote:The Merican. Duh.
Who was the better General?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:46 pm to sms151t
Well, one won and the other lost.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:54 pm to sms151t
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But the question asked was who was a better General, not who was a better officer or who was a better tactician.
That's just being obtuse.
For the record, Rommel's title was Generalfeldmarschall .
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 11/12/14 at 4:09 pm to trickydick12
Rommel, hands down. If you want a great US WWII general to make for a better argument, Omar Bradley would be a superior choice to Patton in every way.
Patton was the subject of an incredibly well done movie, and as a result I think he's gotten a lot of undue credit and some degree of historical white washing. Patton was more of a firey, blood-thirsty leader. I'm pretty sure he was dead last in his class at West Point, and as a result his statue on the grounds was purposefully put in front of and facing the library, so that he could put in the time studying that he failed so miserably to do while a cadet.
(*Caveat: I think they may have recently renovated/built a new library, and so Patton may no longer be facing it, which has ruffled some alumni's feathers. Source: My soon to be father-in-law is a West Point grad who revisits frequently, and my fiance's first cousins are both currently cadets there)
Patton was the subject of an incredibly well done movie, and as a result I think he's gotten a lot of undue credit and some degree of historical white washing. Patton was more of a firey, blood-thirsty leader. I'm pretty sure he was dead last in his class at West Point, and as a result his statue on the grounds was purposefully put in front of and facing the library, so that he could put in the time studying that he failed so miserably to do while a cadet.
(*Caveat: I think they may have recently renovated/built a new library, and so Patton may no longer be facing it, which has ruffled some alumni's feathers. Source: My soon to be father-in-law is a West Point grad who revisits frequently, and my fiance's first cousins are both currently cadets there)
Posted on 11/12/14 at 4:10 pm to trickydick12
Duh
Posted on 11/12/14 at 4:38 pm to BamaChemE
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I'm pretty sure he was dead last in his class at West Point, and as a result his statue on the grounds was purposefully put in front of and facing the library, so that he could put in the time studying that he failed so miserably to do while a cadet.
Maybe but something can be said for someone that pushes through when others are standing around thinking too much.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 4:58 pm to cokebottleag
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Guderian
This is the correct answer.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:56 pm to trickydick12
If Ike had listened to Patton, Russia wouldn't be shite today.
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