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re: Quotes from scientists supporting the cancer fraud.

Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:09 pm to
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Moreover, this entire concept is foolish.


What concept is foolish?

That cancer research is a fraud? Because that's what the thread is about.

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We're not going to agree on the morality and ethics of big pharm.

We're also not going to agree on nutrition being at the front burner of mainstream medicine.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:10 pm to
My biggest pet peeve talking about "cancer" is that people throw the term out like it is one thing. There are tons of different types of cancer. It isn't just one thing, and some are much more aggressive than others. Also we do have a treatment for a fair number of cancers.....a surgical blade.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 6:12 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:10 pm to
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Pharm companies don't make money because doctors, researchers and pharmacists lie and keep secrets from people. They make money because people don't heed medical advice.


Truth.

I said it on another thread about pharma recently, but my friend Jeffrey pushed pills for AstraZeneca - Toprol, Nexium and Crestor. He was fond of saying, "I sell Toprol so the fat guy can have another piece of pizza. I sell Nexium so the fat guy can have another piece of pizza. And I sell Crestor so the fat guy can have another piece of pizza. My job revolves around fat guys eating another piece of pizza."
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:11 pm to
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Cannabis has been researched, but the research is limited, especially in this country. It's showing the ability to kill cancer cells, stop cell division, and speeding up waste management, which aids with cell death. Among other things. But this is all in animal and petri dish testing.

In humans the proof has been in the results, which has been positive.

Researchers commissioned by the government just admitted that cannabis kills cancer cells, but it's only in animals, and it was commissioned by the gov't. It's difficult for independent research to be done. Sadly, they knew about this in the 70s, but that research was shut down and suppressed.

An exciting aspect is the new ground being broke with cannabinoids.


Blame the federal government and the baby boomer legislators for limiting the study of medical uses of cannabinoids. The medical field is full of researchrs ready to dive into that.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:12 pm to
It's really not surprising that someone in pharm sales doesn't thing big pharm is unethical.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:12 pm to
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What concept is foolish?


The idea that cancer research is being hindered and hidden for the sake of money.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:13 pm to
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We're also not going to agree on nutrition being at the front burner of mainstream medicine.

Nutrition isn't at the front burner for Americans. That isn't the doctors' fault anymore than it's teachers faults that kids' parents don't always value education.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:14 pm to
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It's really not surprising that someone in pharm sales doesn't thing big pharm is unethical.


It's really not surprising that you talk out your arse while you cash checks from healthcare.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:14 pm to
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Blame the federal government and the baby boomer legislators for limiting the study of medical uses of cannabinoids. The medical field is full of researchrs ready to dive into that.



Your complex over any medical topic is showing big time.

I'm sure there are medical people ready to investigate cannabis.

Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:15 pm to
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It's really not surprising that you talk out your arse while you cash checks from healthcare.


I don't even know what this means.

But, really, how surprising is it that the pharm salesmen defends pharm sales.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:17 pm to
Estimate the percentage of household income for you from healthcare.

I'm going with 65% for you. About right?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:17 pm to
I merely seek to educate. In your quest to sound smarter and more enlightened than everyone else, you sometimes bite off more than you can chew.

Some people just know more about certain topics than you. There's no shame in admitting that.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:18 pm to
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Nutrition isn't at the front burner for Americans. That isn't the doctors' fault anymore than it's teachers faults that kids' parents don't always value education.


Absolutely.

I blame our nutrition problems on many things.

But, that doesn't change the fact that nutrition is most certainly not at the front burner in mainstream medicine -- as it's a reactionary practice first and foremost.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:19 pm to
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I don't even know what this means.

But, really, how surprising is it that the pharm salesmen defends pharm sales.


How surprising is it that the conspiracy theorist believes in a conspiracy theory?

Round and round we go
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:19 pm to
Ole Miss is already doing that research. One of the keys are plants with as little THC as possible.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:19 pm to
Medicine is reactionary by nature.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:19 pm to
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Estimate the percentage of household income for you from healthcare.

I'm going with 65% for you. About right?


0%, as far as I know..

Am I missing something?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:21 pm to
St. Louis is small, breh. You know this. It's ok. I'll let it go.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:21 pm to
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How surprising is it that the conspiracy theorist believes in a conspiracy theory?


Where is there 'theory' here?

Seems there is more than sound evidence for the fact cancer research is a joke.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:23 pm to
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St. Louis is small, breh. You know this. It's ok. I'll let it go.



Do you think I'm married?

You've mentioned that before, and I'm certain you have the wrong person.

There are more than one person with my name.

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