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re: Quotes from scientists supporting the cancer fraud.

Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:59 am to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:59 am to
Did the CIA create cancer? They created feminism, amirite?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:21 am to
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Did the CIA create cancer?
You know damn well I can't divulge this kind of information in a public forum.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:25 am to
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For a regular person it's about balancing PH with alkaline foods, it's not about creating a fully alkaline environment, it's about reducing the level of acidity in the body to healthier levels, which would reduce the chance of getting cancer -- something we really don't hear about from our health professionals.

It's one of the big reasons it's recommended to start your day with lemon water.


This is the most nonsensical thing you've ever posted and that's saying something.

A healthy, hemodynamically stable individual should live their entire life between at an arterial pH of about 7.4 +/- 0.05. What you eat will not change that unless you regularly overdose on aspirin, drink large amounts of household cleaning products, etc. At the point where a person's pH has changed enough to matter at all, cancer is the least of their worries.
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:25 am to
if pot will keep you from cancer I should be good till about 2075 or so.
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:28 am to
How many billions have been raised to fight cancer. Where does all this money go?
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:32 am to
Depending on the charity, most of it goes to "awareness campaigns" and advertising for the charity.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 11:52 am to
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How many billions have been raised to fight cancer. Where does all this money go?


A lot of it is wasted. A lot is spent on lobbying the government for more money (which seems weird to me). And a lot is spent on perpetuating the non-profits.
Posted by nerd guy
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:46 pm to
All hail the cure for cancer

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:48 pm to
You ready for a shock, OP?

I actually agree with you on this one
Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:23 pm to
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Your body's pH will fluctuate between around 7.35 and 7.45. What you eat won't change that over the long haul. It's not shocking anymore how often you're absolutely and incontrovertibly wrong.



One, I was responding to the claim that lemons are acidic in the body.

Two, I'm aware the body regulates its pH. But it does so by stealing calcium from bones and teeth, as well as other nutrients. Adding lemon water to your routine is a good way to create balance in the body without it robbing itself.

There are so many benefits from lemons it's too much to mention.

We're just starting to understand CBD in cannabis, THC has always been front and center, but now the cannabinoids are becoming the focus to understanding its healing powers -- just as we're learning about flavonoids and the like in things like lemons.

Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:24 pm to
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I actually agree with you on this one


Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:26 pm to
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A healthy, hemodynamically stable individual should live their entire life between at an arterial pH of about 7.4 +/- 0.05. What you eat will not change that unless you regularly overdose on aspirin, drink large amounts of household cleaning products, etc. At the point where a person's pH has changed enough to matter at all, cancer is the least of their worries.


You're missing the fact that the body steals nutrients to balance its pH, adding alkaline foods to an acidic diet helps balance the body without it robbing itself.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:37 pm to
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Two, I'm aware the body regulates its pH. But it does so by stealing calcium from bones and teeth, as well as other nutrients. Adding lemon water to your routine is a good way to create balance in the body without it robbing itself.

Also, the kidneys regulate pH. Not so much the bones.
Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:38 pm to
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If you were diagnosed with cancer, what course of treatment would you seek?


Probably something that couldn't be answered until the moment it needed to be.

But I'll say it's unfortunate that it's so difficult, expensive, and potentially illegal to do things unconventionally. To get really good cannabis oil is nearly impossible, which would be my first choice.

Also, it's unfortunate that so much money/time/effort is put towards researching the institutional way while it's basically illegal to research cannabis as a method for curing cancer.

(I know cannabis has been a focus here, but I know there are other ways besides this that are gaining popularity for killing cancer).

Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:39 pm to
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Also, the kidneys regulate pH. Not so much the bones.



Yeah. It steals nutrients from bones/teeth to regulate through kidneys.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:40 pm to
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while it's basically illegal to research cannabis as a method for curing cancer.


Earlier you said we know cannabis heals cancer. How do we know that if the research is illegal?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:41 pm to
Lol no.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:57 pm to
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Two, I'm aware the body regulates its pH. But it does so by stealing calcium from bones and teeth, as well as other nutrients. Adding lemon water to your routine is a good way to create balance in the body without it robbing itself.


The body regulates it's pH by three primary mechanisms; Increased or decreased bicarbonate resorption in the proximal tubule of the kidney, increased or decreased excretion of hydrogen ions in the distal tubule and respiratory compensation.

Calcium plays a very minor role in acid-base chemistry.

And besides, people with chronic untreated acid-base disorders are gonna die of many other things long before they could get cancer.
Posted by hipgnosis
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:05 pm to
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Earlier you said we know cannabis heals cancer. How do we know that if the research is illegal?



You're being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

Cannabis has been researched, but the research is limited, especially in this country. It's showing the ability to kill cancer cells, stop cell division, and speeding up waste management, which aids with cell death. Among other things. But this is all in animal and petri dish testing.

In humans the proof has been in the results, which has been positive.

Researchers commissioned by the government just admitted that cannabis kills cancer cells, but it's only in animals, and it was commissioned by the gov't. It's difficult for independent research to be done. Sadly, they knew about this in the 70s, but that research was shut down and suppressed.

An exciting aspect is the new ground being broke with cannabinoids.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:07 pm to
Moreover, this entire concept is foolish. If everyone exercised regularly, ate even reasonably healthy and stopped smoking it would eliminate the overwhelming majority of diabetes, cancer, heart disease and hypertension. Those are the four big deadly pathologies in the western world and nearly 80% of the annual money made by pharm corporations involves drugs used to treat those conditions.

Now, what is the NUMBER ONE THING every doctor tells every patient at every appointment? What is the first line of treatment every physician employs? Eat healthy, exercise and stop smoking.

If Americans listened to mainstream medical advice, big pharm profits would plummet.

Pharm companies don't make money because doctors, researchers and pharmacists lie and keep secrets from people. They make money because people don't heed medical advice.

You have no one to blame but yourselves.
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