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Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:06 pm
First off, I am a poors. I work as a Logistics Analyst at a small company that has GM and Chrysler as clients.
I've been with my current company for almost 4 years and have gotten very small raises every year, but I have at least gotten raises.
I have two interviews scheduled this week with larger companies that do similar work on a larger scale and more directly with GM and Ford. Each of the positions I'm interviewing for will pay more. One slightly more, and one substantially more.
Now on to the dilemma. My current company has really supported me through the last few years when our special needs son causes me to miss some work. Our department has 8 people and most have been there close to 10 years while half being closer to 15 years. There has to be a reason why.
Should I:
A. Talk to my boss prior to the interviews and let him know that I love the job, but just have to have more money. I mean got a family of 4 and making what a lot of fresh college grads make right out of school.
B. Try to get the other jobs and leave.
C. Wait until I receive another offer before I try for a counter-offer from my current employer
Tldr: like my company but hate my pay. Got 2 interviews set up. Should I just ask for a raise or just try for one of the higher paying gigs?
I've been with my current company for almost 4 years and have gotten very small raises every year, but I have at least gotten raises.
I have two interviews scheduled this week with larger companies that do similar work on a larger scale and more directly with GM and Ford. Each of the positions I'm interviewing for will pay more. One slightly more, and one substantially more.
Now on to the dilemma. My current company has really supported me through the last few years when our special needs son causes me to miss some work. Our department has 8 people and most have been there close to 10 years while half being closer to 15 years. There has to be a reason why.
Should I:
A. Talk to my boss prior to the interviews and let him know that I love the job, but just have to have more money. I mean got a family of 4 and making what a lot of fresh college grads make right out of school.
B. Try to get the other jobs and leave.
C. Wait until I receive another offer before I try for a counter-offer from my current employer
Tldr: like my company but hate my pay. Got 2 interviews set up. Should I just ask for a raise or just try for one of the higher paying gigs?
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:13 pm to NorthReb
I wouldn't talk to your current boss until after you've been offered a position with one of the other two companies. Never know how they'll react.
Nothing wrong with pursuing more money. Gotta take care of number 1. No one else will.
Nothing wrong with pursuing more money. Gotta take care of number 1. No one else will.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:18 pm to five_fivesix
Sounds like your small company helps you in other ways. Time off a special needs child is a huge perk and more valuable to me than say a 10% raise. Are you ready for this perk to end? If so peruse the other jobs if not be content where your at
Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:22 pm to five_fivesix
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I wouldn't talk to your current boss until after you've been offered a position with one of the other two companies. Never know how they'll react.
This,
Also, not sure if spouse works, but I've personally seen using a rumor or innuendo of spouse getting a better job out of state and possibly having to move , work great in getting raises
Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:22 pm to NorthReb
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C. Wait until I receive another offer before I try for a counter-offer from my current employer
This is what I wish I would've done with my current boss. I informed him before that I was applying for other positions and it's been an unmitigated shitshow since. Especially when he told a coworker of a mine that holds shite against anybody who tries to "leave her behind".
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A. Talk to my boss prior to the interviews and let him know that I love the job, but just have to have more money. I mean got a family of 4 and making what a lot of fresh college grads make right out of school.
With my former boss (we worked together for almost 8 years), I could've done this because he was a no nonsense kind of guy who was all about people bettering themselves even if it meant losing them as an employee.
It really depends on your relationship with your boss. If you have the slightest suspicion that it could backfire if you told him ahead of time, I wouldn't do it until I had some concrete offers.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 6:48 pm to five_fivesix
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boss until after you've been offered a position with one of the other two companies. Never know how they'll react.
And IMO, this means hard offer in hand.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:25 pm to NorthReb
During interview with new companies, tell them you would need to give your current employer 4-6 weeks notice due to how instrumental you are to them, to help hand off responsibilities to your replacement.
During that period, your current employer will probably offer you more money. You won't even have to ask.
Then you make your final decision.
ETA- That's what I did last Summer and it worked out very well for me.
During that period, your current employer will probably offer you more money. You won't even have to ask.
Then you make your final decision.
ETA- That's what I did last Summer and it worked out very well for me.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:33 pm to NorthReb
Ask for a raise. Get another job offer. Ask for a raise again.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 7:41 pm to NorthReb
I say there is no harm in asking for a raise now, but don't connect it to the interviews. They don't need to know about that.
If you get an offer that you are willing to take, tell them you can't start for about a month.
Then give your boss notice. Make sure you emphasize that you really enjoy the job and company, but that your family situation demands more financial compensation.
The ball is now in your boss's court.
And here's the part that sucks: if you are easily replaced, you won't hear jack and they will just let you go.
But if you are a key employ that it would suck for them to lose, expect a counteroffer.
Good luck.
If you get an offer that you are willing to take, tell them you can't start for about a month.
Then give your boss notice. Make sure you emphasize that you really enjoy the job and company, but that your family situation demands more financial compensation.
The ball is now in your boss's court.
And here's the part that sucks: if you are easily replaced, you won't hear jack and they will just let you go.
But if you are a key employ that it would suck for them to lose, expect a counteroffer.
Good luck.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:07 pm to the808bass
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boss until after you've been offered a position with one of the other two companies. Never know how they'll react.
And IMO, this means hard offer in hand.
Pay attention to this. Wouldn't even begin to open it up until I was certain I'd get the other job.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:08 pm to NorthReb
C. Without a doubt
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:11 pm to NorthReb
Your answer is C no matter what, but I'd just be weary of the new job being able to provide you the flexibility your old job did if it's a must have. There's always the potential that you bolt for the better paying job and end up having to quit because they couldn't make the schedule work.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 8:51 pm to NorthReb
Talk to the other companies first and see what they offer you. You could also ask those other companies if they will be able to give you necessary time off for your special needs child.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:14 am to NorthReb
My honest response:
Don't play the family card. Your personal situation has no determination on your value to a company (I would say that to anyone regardless of their situation)4
Always be on the look out for a better job.
Establish a perception punctuality.
Before asking for a raise. Have a conversation with your boss about what he thinks you can do to earn a raise in pay. Time served does not equate to deserving a raise; increasing responsibility and skill set does.
Be aware of the value of you personal stock. Finally ask for a raise when you are confident that the perception of your performance is in a good place.
Best of luck to you.
Don't play the family card. Your personal situation has no determination on your value to a company (I would say that to anyone regardless of their situation)4
Always be on the look out for a better job.
Establish a perception punctuality.
Before asking for a raise. Have a conversation with your boss about what he thinks you can do to earn a raise in pay. Time served does not equate to deserving a raise; increasing responsibility and skill set does.
Be aware of the value of you personal stock. Finally ask for a raise when you are confident that the perception of your performance is in a good place.
Best of luck to you.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:27 am to NorthReb
Interview and then talk to the boss. But don't back him or her into a corner, as it seems they've been good to you. Just interview and then go have an honest conversation with your boss.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:51 am to Rounder1
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Before asking for a raise. Have a conversation with your boss about what he thinks you can do to earn a raise in pay. Time served does not equate to deserving a raise; increasing responsibility and skill set does
This is very good advice.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:54 am to NorthReb
C. Don't talk to your boss about interviewing until you have an offer in hand. Then, see if they will come up in pay at least to something adequate for you. If you like the company and the work, that is worth a little less money to me, as you never know what your new environment will be like. Best of luck. 
Posted on 6/18/15 at 8:08 am to Rounder1
quote:That's what I would do if I did speak to them. I would actually enjoy more. I've tried taking on more tasks over the last year or two as is.
Before asking for a raise. Have a conversation with your boss about what he thinks you can do to earn a raise in pay. Time served does not equate to deserving a raise; increasing responsibility and skill set does.
Thanks everyone for your advice. I'll be going to the interview today just to feel them out.
I'll bump the thread later with a final update just for shits and giggles.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:13 am to tigerbacon
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Sounds like your small company helps you in other ways. Time off a special needs child is a huge perk and more valuable to me than say a 10% raise. Are you ready for this perk to end? If so peruse the other jobs if not be content where your at
As a father of a special needs child, the importance of this can not be understated.
I have had to miss work several times during the 8 years I have been at my current job due to my daughters condition and my boss/company's owner has had no issues.
Leaving for a new company, even one that pays more, may put that "drop of a hat" availability to tend to your sons needs in jeopardy.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:58 am to NorthReb
Both interviews went very well. On Thursday, I had the Logistics Analyst interview with company A, and on Friday came the Sr. Logistics Analyst with company B. Company B actually had 3 Sr. Analyst positions to fill.
So far this morning I recieved the offer from company A (17% raise). I'm going to call company A back this afternoon, but I want to give company B time to offer as well. How should I go about "dragging my feet" to buy some time?
So far this morning I recieved the offer from company A (17% raise). I'm going to call company A back this afternoon, but I want to give company B time to offer as well. How should I go about "dragging my feet" to buy some time?
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