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re: Ohio woman gets herself 300 day contempt of court sentence

Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:21 pm to
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Land of the free....



I really wonder Roger if you know who stands between the woman and you, the Judge

No Judge, then you can deal with her personally because that is what we would have without it.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68487 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:21 pm to
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It sure as shite isn't excessive jail time.

Sure it is. Judge said to shut up or he'd keep adding days. She didn't shut up and she is facing the consequences.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:23 pm to
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I really wonder Roger if you know who stands between the woman and you, the Judge

No Judge, then you can deal with her personally because that is what we would have without it.



That sounds terrifying!
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:23 pm to
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300 days to learn humility.


By the way Roger, seriously, straight up, HOW long would it take you to find humility?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98947 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:24 pm to
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It sure as shite isn't excessive jail time.

My issue isn't her being sentenced to time. My issue is the amount of time. It's ridiculous and indefensible in this supposedly free country.

As someone else stated we've become way too immune to throwing people in jail and locking away the key, when we should be trying to work through the actual issues, not creating more.


All of this contradicts this..

quote:

As far as a solution? You can't fix stupid. It is what it is,


So in other words you don't have any solution for the problem but you want to bitch about jail time. Got it.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:25 pm to
It's a free country. That lady was free to keep her mouth shut in a setting she knew she should have. She knew what she was doing. She didn't care. So I don't care if she spends 300 days in jail.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 5:26 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260191 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:25 pm to
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It's ridiculous and indefensible in this supposedly free country.


Right. 300 days for disrespecting authority? Who the frick thinks this is a good idea?

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98947 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:26 pm to
You mean 300 days after threatening to go back to the victim's home whom she allegedly assaulted? And continued to essentially tell the judge she didn't care how many days it was that she still would?
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:28 pm to
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I bet the judge wouldn't give a white girl 300 days.





What CRAP
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260191 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:28 pm to
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You mean 300 days after threatening to go back to the victim's home whom she allegedly assaulted?


She wasn't going anywhere except to jail. Let her do her 30 days and see what she does then.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:28 pm to
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So I don't care if she spend 300 days in jail.



Yeah, I know, most people don't. She'll sit there for 300 days, learn nothing from the experience, get little to no treatment for her evident anger issues, get out, then cost the taxpayer another round of money! It's the great circle of low IQs mixed with an overly defensive police state.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:30 pm to
It seems the lady thought it was a good idea, because she wouldnt quit threatenening to disobey a lawful order to stay away from the family member she assaulted. Chalk it up to another case of, "aint nobody gonna tell ME what to do" arrogance.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:31 pm to
I love how none of this is her fault. Oh well she has anger problems. Well we live in a police state. Don't care. Take responsibility for your own actions. Again she knew exactly what she was doing and if she didn't want to keep adding jail time she should have kept her mouth shut.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98947 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:33 pm to
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She wasn't going anywhere except to jail. Let her do her 30 days and see what she does then.


And just ignore any other behavior that warranted more than your standard 30 days contempt charge?

This isn't some kid who got popped on marijuana possession who got mouthy with a judge. This is a grown woman who DGAF enough to assault her grandfather who was providing her housing. She doesn't even have sense enough to not bite the hand that feeds her. We'll have to agree to disagree, but at that point she deserves the 300 days.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260191 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:34 pm to
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Yeah, I know, most people don't. She'll sit there for 300 days, learn nothing from the experience, get little to no treatment for her evident anger issues, get out, then cost the taxpayer another round of money! It's the great circle of low IQs mixed with an overly defensive police state.


We love to lock people up. Meanwhile, we're supporting them in jail at a cost of (national average) $130/day. So roughly $40,000 for her time in jail, and if she has any dependents, we'll be supporting them too.

Meanwhile, the law and order proponents who love locking people away will probably be bitching about high taxes.

Lets look at this again



For most of those locked up, we're also paying for their dependents via public welfare while they are incarcerated.

fricked up system.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10566 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:35 pm to
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I love how none of this is her fault.


Where was this said? Her fault or not, she'll continue to be a nuisance to society without treatment.

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Well we live in a police state. Don't care. Take responsibility for your own actions


Yeah, well that's not how the system is set up, so people generally don't do that now. Independence has shifted to dependence.

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Again she knew exactly what she was doing and if she didn't want to keep adding jail time she should have kept her mouth shut.



Yes, most logical and level-minded people do that, which is why I said it is very evident she has issues that go beyond jail time. But it seems the legal system isn't results based - it's more of a numbers based type thing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260191 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:35 pm to
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And just ignore any other behavior that warranted more than your standard 30 days contempt charge?


Yes.

Bring her back in 30 days and see if her attitude has changed.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:35 pm to
If one cant act civilized in a nuetral settinh, one shouldnt expect to be treated like a civilized person. Too many arrogant, self centered heatherns in this day and age.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:36 pm to
That tells me they are getting too cushy accomodations and we should cut entitlements.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98947 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:37 pm to
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We love to lock people up. Meanwhile, we're supporting them in jail at a cost of (national average) $130/day. So roughly $40,000 for her time in jail, and if she has any dependents, we'll be supporting them too.


So once again, what's the solution? You have an issue with jail cost, but if you want to actually treat the problem with anger management (and I'm not talking about the bullshite classes you go to for an assault charge because they're just that) then you're going to spend just as much or more. And you're still going to have to care for her dependents if she's in a long-term facility.

I have no problem with an alternative instead of putting her in jail, but right now it doesn't exist. And at some point you have to say enough is enough to open defiance in a courtroom against a judge.
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