re: My daughter turns nine tomorrow, we're thinking about taking her..

Cheapest I see online is 15k. So I was off by $5k.

Those likely aren't Uzi or their semis.

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Cheapest I see online is 15k. So I was off by $5k.

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I sold them and many weapons like them for a living.

15,000 is outrageous.

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/h-k-uzi-s-mac-10.html

The 2nd link are all semi autos.

If you sold them you should know the difference.

As I said, 6,000 to 6,500 is a good range for that type of weapon. 15,000 and it better come with a Russian mail-order bride.

Or a bunch of conversion kits.
Edit: Proof


https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?62999-NIB-price-for-full-auto-Vector-UZI

7,000 - 7,500 price range.

But what do I know?

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I wasn't aware that you could legally make a full auto weapon that isn't made for law enforcement. According to the article all weapons that are full auto are pre-ban (1986).

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Can you explain?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

Also, it ought to be noted that the reason I no longer work there is because I witnessed illicit transactions and quit.

https://www.wtoc.com/global/story.asp?s=12969366

^ ^ ^ I'll probably get into some trouble for that.

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This is the case. If someone has a full auto, post 86, it's not legal, if it's not LE. Anyone can own one with a Class III license, but it best be pre 86.

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Exactly. So how is this company able to sell brand new weapons? I've never seen a full auto go for less that $15k

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Looks like the loophole is licensed to manufacture nfa firearms. Can then be sold only to LE or destroyed if license isnt kept.

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I'm starting to wonder if any of you have ever actually been to these gun shows whatsoever.

I'm also starting to notice that you guys think arms dealers play by the rules with everything.

There are probably millions of unregistered weapons floating around, similarly, how do you think cartels manage to get fully-automatic M4s? Do you think they buy them from China? Christ on a pogo stick, guys, this is one of those reasons that people say there needs to be more government involvement with firearms.

"I Just don't get how they could break the law and sell people stuff illegally, even after this guy posted a link to a news story how the owner was arrested for just that. "

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there needs to be more government involvement with firearms.

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The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as was the possession of ammunition."[3]
The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[4]
Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[4]
The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[3]
Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the revision that such permits would no longer be issued to Jews or any company part-owned by Jews. Jews were consequently forbidden from the manufacturing or dealing of firearms and ammunition.[3]
Under both the 1928 and 1938 acts, gun manufacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns' serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.

-- Nazis actually greatly reduced firearms control.

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So you're defending the Nazis now? Not surprising.

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I really don't want to get an IM from the admins but you're making this really, really hard.