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re: Life on other planets theorists, take a hit, scientifically
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:43 pm to Kentucker
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:43 pm to Kentucker
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It's a shame Christians and Muslims fall back on the OT so regularly. At least the fundamentalists of both religions do, and that's enough to cause problems on a global scale.
Nonreligious folks have been so unproblematic on a global scale.
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:46 pm to Kentucker
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You claim to understand the scientific method
Where did I state that?
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The search for extraterrestrial life is playing out just as any scientific experiment does
And yet, nonreligious folks, get bent out of shape, because some say that their belief in intelligent life, is nothing but faith at this point. Which is an accurate statement. As no evidence exists at this point.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:48 pm to Alahunter
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Nonreligious folks have been so unproblematic on a global scale.
Your sarcasm is noted and I challenge you to state that current and recent conflicts on the world stage are not the result of instigation by fundamentalist Muslims.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:52 pm to Kentucker
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you to state that current and recent conflicts on the world stage are not the result of instigation by fundamentalist Muslims
So, we're going to indict religion as a whole, and then only compare one instance?
What role is religion being played in, with respect to Russia's advance into the Ukraine?
Or the violence in Mexico, involving drug cartels, that has resulted in tens of thousands of murders?
Furthermore, you used Christians in the statement, but want to somehow indict them, by referencing fundamentalists Muslims only. The dishonesty is thick.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:55 pm to Alahunter
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Where did I state that?
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quote: Science is an ever growing concept. Theories change all the time and are modified to accept new evidence.
Seriously dude? If you don't remember saying the above, I can't discuss the subject with you anymore.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:55 pm to Kentucker
Ok.. so theories don't change, based on new evidence?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:57 pm to Kentucker
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can't discuss the subject with you anymore
It's probably best that we both stop. The topic has become one of militant atheistic view points and the feeling or need to "show" that religious beliefs, are below you.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:59 pm to Alahunter
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Ok.. so theories don't change, based on new evidence?
Okay, this discussion is devolving into an argument. I don't argue with anyone. I discuss. Please find someone else to play your game with you. I'm out.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:01 pm to Kentucker
That was a question, not an argument. The arguing proceeded, when yall decided to make it an evolution/creation debate, rather than provide scientific evidence that intelligent life exists. Instead, nothing has disputed what I said, and inferred. The only thing to give creed to intelligent ET life, is faith, at this point in time. And nothing in Christianity, states that the possibility of ET, as we understand, can't exist.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:07 pm to Alahunter
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Life on other planets theorists, take a hit, scientifically
What an absurd title...a rough estimate of the number of planets in the Universe is 10000000000000000000000000
That's 24 0's
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:10 pm to beaver
It didn't state.. a huge hit.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:16 pm to Alahunter
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And yet, nonreligious folks, get bent out of shape, because some say that their belief in intelligent life, is nothing but faith at this point. Which is an accurate statement. As no evidence exists at this point.
I think the alien abduction lunatics are just that lunatics. however I do think there is probably alien life somewhere out there. It's actually very similar to my thoughts on religion.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:17 pm to oklahogjr
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however I do think there is probably alien life somewhere out there.
It's possible.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:14 am to Alahunter
Simply put, If someone doesn't believe in the story of creation found in the bible, then life originated on Earth through some other means. Based on estimates of what conditions were necessary for life to begin and flourish, it is pretty much a statistical gurantee that there is plenty of life throughout the universe in other places. Basically the only way there is not life elsewhere is if a literal interpretation of genesis is true.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:22 am to Alahunter
This thread was strange.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:25 am to Gcockboi
There's life out there. With the billions of celestial bodies out there, life exists beyond the earth.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 12:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There's life out there. With the billions of celestial bodies out there, life exists beyond the earth.
Can't say either way with absolute certainty, IMO.
And given the vastness of space, who's to say we'd even recognize "life" if and when we encountered it? Our whole premise of finding other life forms is based upon it being relatable to what we know as "life." The rest of the universe doesn't necessarily have to play by our rules, though, you know?
Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:57 am to Alahunter
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So, we're going to indict religion as a whole, and then only compare one instance?
The Middle East is hardly a single instance. I don't think there's a group of people who actually coexist with Muslims.
Christians murder and massacre them in Africa, Jews in the Middle East, Buddhists in the far East and generally most of America. Even Canada is having problems with their Muslim population and have caught a few of potential and literal terrorists.
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What role is religion being played in, with respect to Russia's advance into the Ukraine?
Although, you could consider nationalism to be a pseduoreligious position which Russia practices, along with its alliance to the Orthodox Church. Perhaps not a Fundamentalist Muslim reasoning, but it's also not that big of a problem yet. If they continue, perhaps, but they're showing signs of backing off due to international pressure.
It's technically, also, a regional conflict and not exactly a conflict yet.
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Or the violence in Mexico, involving drug cartels, that has resulted in tens of thousands of murders?
Over a hundred thousand murders, and have you sincerely not heard of the "Knights Templar"? Do you have any idea why they call themselves that?
La Familia cartel is sometimes described as quasi-religious since its leaders, Moreno González and Méndez Vargas, refer to their assassinations and beheadings as "divine justice"[24] and that they may have direct or indirect ties with devotees of the New Jerusalem religious movement, which is noted for its concern for justice issues.[25][26][27][28][29][30] La Familia's boss and spiritual leader Nazario Moreno González, (a.k.a.: El Más Loco or The Craziest One) published his own 'bible',[24][31]
Most of the people here are insanely religious and worship Santa Muerte. When you have people telling you that what you're doing is divine justice, they generally tend to be capable of far more barbarism than before.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 11:05 am
Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:12 am to Alahunter
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And nothing in Christianity, states that the possibility of ET, as we understand, can't exist.
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''The Scriptures do not directly address the question of alien beings. The Bible does not explicitly confirm or deny the existence of intelligent life from other planets. Although the subject is not addressed explicitly, the Bible teaches implicitly that the only things He created with intelligence are the angels, man, and the animals.''
LINK -- if you want to qualify ''life''. Apparently, some Christians do believe that the creation myth is incompatible with alien life.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 11:54 am to Alahunter
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capable of sustaining life as we know it
But we don't know shite about everything
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