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re: Life on other planets theorists, take a hit, scientifically
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:53 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:53 pm to Alahunter
Good grief, the article is a big FAIL. I stopped reading after the first sentence. The author did not do her homework. The Kepler telescope stopped "discovering" planets back in May when its aiming mechanism stopped working.
The "discoveries" of the 700+ new planets came from data that will take more than two years to analyze. There will be many more planets "discovered" from this data over the next two years. While Kepler is not totally dead, it is not functioning in a planet discovery mode. NASA hopes to find some use for the crippled telescope.
I hate it when someone publishes an article and makes assumptions based on little knowledge. The author has discredited herself a lot.
The "discoveries" of the 700+ new planets came from data that will take more than two years to analyze. There will be many more planets "discovered" from this data over the next two years. While Kepler is not totally dead, it is not functioning in a planet discovery mode. NASA hopes to find some use for the crippled telescope.
I hate it when someone publishes an article and makes assumptions based on little knowledge. The author has discredited herself a lot.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 6:59 pm to Kentucker
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Good grief, the article is a big FAIL. I stopped reading after the first sentence. The author did not do her homework. The Kepler telescope stopped "discovering" planets back in May when its aiming mechanism stopped working.
Yeah. That was a big red flag for me. Those telescopes aren't cheap and they aim for the same exact place for weeks at a time in order to understand what is fully going on. Then they go onto their next assignment. If they stayed there for another few weeks, they would have almost certainly found more planets.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:02 pm to Alahunter
If the universe is infinite, then there are an infinite number of planets and an infinite number of planets with life, and an infinite number of people on their planet somewhere who look just like we do.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:13 pm to Loathor
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I don't understand why you act like you hope nothing else is out there.
Fear?
What's the line on him being Religious? I'll take it.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:29 pm to Alahunter
Intelligent life on other planets*
Those planets are probably bacteria feeding grounds
Those planets are probably bacteria feeding grounds
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:11 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I don't understand why you act like you hope nothing else is out there.
Fear?
What's the line on him being Religious? I'll take it.
I simply used a factual statement in the headline, then copied a portion of a scientific article, and post the link. Without commentary. How does that infer I hope anything?
And what does being religious have to do with belief in life on other planets? Why can't both be compatible? Is there scripture that discounts this possibility?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:13 pm to Alahunter
I've seen too many episodes of Star Trek to ever believe you can eliminate that many planets all at once.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:16 pm to Kentucker
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The author did not do her homework. The Kepler telescope stopped "discovering" planets back in May when its aiming mechanism stopped working.
NASA's Kepler Mission Announces a Planet Bonanza, 715 New Worlds February 26, 2014
NASA's Kepler mission announced Wednesday the discovery of 715 new planets. These newly-verified worlds orbit 305 stars, revealing multiple-planet systems much like our own solar system.
NASA dot gov
eta- I understand the confusion over "just found" and "just confirmed". Don't think it's that big a deal, as the announcement was just made.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:20 pm to Alahunter
Are you religious or not?
And getting information from these programs isn't instantaneous. It takes a long time to communicate, and a longer time to go through all of the information. If you have the SETI program on your computer you'll notice that in some instances, you're sifting through information from several years ago.
A lot of movies make it seem like a Skype call, but communicating with anything on Mars takes at least 20 minutes to arrive.
And getting information from these programs isn't instantaneous. It takes a long time to communicate, and a longer time to go through all of the information. If you have the SETI program on your computer you'll notice that in some instances, you're sifting through information from several years ago.
A lot of movies make it seem like a Skype call, but communicating with anything on Mars takes at least 20 minutes to arrive.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:23 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I am. Again, what's the difference if someone is or isn't. Many scientists are. And as I asked, can you show me scripture where the two couldn't be compatible? My religion has no bearing on my belief of if there could or couldn't be intelligent life in the Universe, outside of us. There could be, there couldn't be. I have no idea.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:27 pm to Alahunter
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And as I asked, can you show me scripture where the two couldn't be compatible?
then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature. 8
Human evolution is the evolutionary process leading up to the appearance of modern humans. While it began with the last common ancestor of all life, the topic usually covers only the evolutionary history of primates, in particular the genus Homo, and the emergence of Homo sapiens as a distinct species of hominids (or "great apes"). The study of human evolution involves many scientific disciplines, including physical anthropology, primatology, archaeology, ethology, linguistics, evolutionary psychology, embryology and genetics.[1]
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:28 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I don't see anything in that verse about no life Nibiru.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:30 pm to Alahunter
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Just last week, the not entirely dead Kepler space telescope discovered over 700 new exoplanets, many of those falling into the super Earth category
Total fail.
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We also know that if a planet is too small, it can’t have enough gravity for the right atmosphere to form for it to sustain life.
bullshite. There's a planet slightly smaller than earth right next door that has an atmosphere 90 times as dense as our own. So much for a direct relationship between gravity and atmosphere density.
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And with new exoplanets being discovered every day, we now have a better idea of which ones may sustain life.
She ends the tiny article the way it began, with a falsehood. She's a horrible science writer.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:31 pm to Alahunter
I've seen you in threads like this a few times and you usually seem quick to get on the no life outside of earth argument, and you give off a vibe that you hope that to be the case. Just wondering why.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:31 pm to Kentucker
I didn't read that far down. I guess you did go past the first sentence.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:33 pm to OBReb6
I've only ever stated, that believing in intelligent life, beyond Earth, requires as much faith, as those that have a belief in God. There is absolutely no evidence there is. Probability? Perhaps, but still, no proof or reason to believe it, other than the want to.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:35 pm to Alahunter
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I don't see anything in that verse about no life Nibiru.
Well the narrative is clearly incorrect on life on Earth, why would it presume life elsewhere? It doesn't surprise me that someone religious is doubtful of life elsewhere that wasn't -willed- into existence like the story he believes.
In fact, the spontaneous generation -does- preclude you from taking this topic seriously. The Mormons in Starship Troopers taught us that.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You've still not shown anything that Scripture states, that precludes the possibility of intelligent life, outside of Earth's confines. You're just trying to enter into an Evolution/Creation debate with what you posted.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:39 pm to Alahunter
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You've still not shown anything that Scripture states, that precludes the possibility of intelligent life, outside of Earth's confines. You're just trying to enter into an Evolution/Creation debate with what you posted.
Furthermore, the Bible clearly indicates that the fate of the universe (every other planet and star) is forever linked to God's timetable for mankind and the Earth. One day, Christ will return to Earth and complete the final act of man's redemption (2 Peter 3:9-10). He will destroy this present universe and create a new heavens and Earth (2 Peter 3:7,10; Revelations 21:1). All the stars and planets will be destroyed, along with the Earth.
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Not wanting life on other plants is an exclusively Christian position, which is how I knew you were religious to begin with. Most people know that the article you posted was bull from the very moment you posted it.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I will say, it's amusing to see nonbelievers, attempt to dissuade believers. When believers do nothing of the sort to dissuade belief in ET. Believe in em if you like. It makes no matter to me. Hell, they just may exist.
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