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re: Last Thread I'll Post About Mizzou Chaos to Challenge to Logic

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Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:24 am to
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Or a woman


Good point. Be an adult and stand on your own two feet, regardless of gender.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:24 am to
Missouri sho is racist.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:27 am to
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Wrong.

YOU don't get to tell ME how I feel. About anything. Sorry.

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I experience systemic hate from Mizzou fans on this site all the time because I'm different. Mizzou fans have hurled incredibly hurtful insults at me most of which were supported by Mizzou Board admins and longtime posters. I certainly don't feel the Mizzou Board and/or Mizzou fans to be welcoming.

All of it stems from a long history of hate in Missouri directed toward people who harbor different opinions or belief systems than the populace.

Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:29 am to
You don't have to defend Mizzou. We all know what happened here. Being white is proof of racism and if we don't agree then we need training to understand the full impact of our white privilege.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:31 am to
i read on here it was all over "shite=stika' lol but if the kids call this female proffesor the n word constantly on mizzou campus cant imagine what the black students go through
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 10:32 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:33 am to
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but if the kids call this female proffesor the n word constantly on mizzou campus cant imagine what the black students go through

And if you believe this happened, can I also interest you in some land?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41251 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:35 am to
Hey here is some breaking news for you, colleges are liberal.

Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8062 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:36 am to
I got a solution.

Get rid of non engineering, medicine, science and business degrees. Start there.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:40 am to
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onathan Butler was interviewed on CNN's Anderson Cooper. He went so far as to say that he felt unwelcome and unsafe the moment he stepped on campus. How is that possible?


butler is 25 years old if not older and has apparently been at Mizzou his entire post HS graduate life so he has been at Mizzou about 6 or 7 years now, and has stayed there that entire time, in spite of feeling so unwelcome since day 1.

What a hero huh.

This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 10:42 am
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:40 am to
all i know is missouri is fricked up
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:40 am to
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If some posters are correct, it seems that the protesters were a small minority of Mizzou students, why doesn't this vast silent majority rise up and take their university back? Are there no students pissed off enough about this to stage a mass demonstration of their own?


Here is one student's perspective...

quote:

Today I woke up thinking it would be just another dreaded Monday, a day that came much to quickly from the Friday I seemed to wait forever for.

I did the first thing I always do when I wake up on Monday mornings, check my email for a message from my professors telling me class has been canceled and that I can spend my day in bed. Most Mondays, that email is one that never waits for me in my inbox.

Until today.

As I skimmed through the email that explained the cancelation of class, my giddy, no school today smile began to fade, and was replaced by a look of a lot of confusion, and a little bit of anger. The words in the email began eating me up, as I established the motivation for calling off class.

My classes, among with hundreds of other students’, were cancelled because a black man almost starved himself to death.

It sounds kind of crazy doesn’t it? Well, that’s probably because it is.

Seven says ago, Jonathan Butler, a University of Missouri graduate student, pledged not only to himself, but to an entire collegiate organization, that he would be participating in a hunger strike.

Why? Because he, and those in support of this so-called movement he has started, are trying to end racial discrimination.

I honestly don’t even know what racism really is anymore. The word is thrown around and “fought for” so much these days, but do we even really know what we are fighting for?

Whites vs. blacks?

Black vs. whites?

They say they’re fighting for equality, but what about starving yourself to death so a man loses a job he worked so hard for say about equality?

What does chanting “black power” throughout a campus of more than 30,000 racially diverse students say about equality?

What does protesting, “white silence is violence” say about equality?

You’re doing exactly what you are protesting against by saying all white people who don’t speak up are racists.

Butler, with the support of his followers, made starvation, distraction and protests an incentive to force Tim Wolfe, University of Missouri Systems President, to resign from his job.

Allow me to clarify if I have created some confusion: a black man gave a white man an ultimatum…if you don’t quit your job, you will be the reason I die.

That’s their way of fighting for equality?

Seems a little sketchy to me.

My mind is overwhelmed with thoughts and questions about what I have seen lately, and maybe it’s just me…but there are things I don’t understand, things that I want to question, and things that I need to say.

Dear Jonathan Butler and #ConcernedStudents1950,

You’ve done a lot of big things this past month in the “fight” to end racial discrimination (whatever that may mean to you). Some call your actions brave, while others call it hypocritical.

To me, it’s neither of those things.

To me, it’s just sad.

It’s sad that you chose to deprive your mind and body of things it needs to thrive to try and prove a point.

It’s sad that you believe white silence is violence.

It’s sad that you expect ONE man, ONE human being, to take responsibility for a 50-year-old problem that may never have a solution.

Tim Wolfe grew up here in Columbia.

Tim Wolfe dedicated more than six years of his life working hard to further his education.

Tim Wolfe is a husband and a father.

You protest about fairness, but how is it fair that this man loses his job and reputation all because you all felt offended.

What about the girls who get made fun of for being fat?

What about the skinny blonde who gets called a slut because her skirt is short?

What about the gay guy in the fraternity?

What about the Mormon girl who gets judged because her religion says she can’t wear a two-piece bathing suit?

Everyday people face discrimination and everyday people get offended.

Why do YOU get to chose the importance of the problems we face not only as a university, but as a country?

I have always been in support of movements that spark change regarding discrimination, but only when that change becomes inclusive of all issues we face,

You don’t have the right to prioritize racial discrimination.

You don’t have the right to march and chant through peaceful university establishments/buildings and distract me from my education.

You don’t have the right to tell me what I have to believe or say.

You don’t have the right to label me violent because I choose not to speak up about racial discrimination.

The actions of you and your group, while admirable, were inappropriate and unproductive in your attempt to spark change in regards to racial discrimination.

I only hope that time will soon heal the wounds that have been given to our campuses reputation, our student body reputation, and our program as a whole.

We are a University with so much to be proud of, and that is where change should spark from.

We should use our accomplishments successful leaders, and most importantly, we should use each other as tools to create change.

Let’s start there.

All the best,

A non-racist, non-violent, white college student

Columbia, MO, USA
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:42 am to
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quote:
but if the kids call this female proffesor the n word constantly on mizzou campus cant imagine what the black students go through

And if you believe this happened, can I also interest you in some land?

I actually know this professor. I don't believe she would make it up. I think it was pretty isolated though, not something that happened often.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:50 am to
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Here is one student's perspective...


That was a good read. Hopefully she gets out before that sink hole swallows the campus.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:54 am to
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That was a good read. Hopefully she gets out before that sink hole swallows the campus.


Mizzou is a campus ran by primarily white liberals, which makes it just like 98% of the campuses in America.

That has been the case for at a minimum, 4 decades now, so apparently all these white liberals in charge for nearly a half century are part of the "systemic racist" problem of the MU campus.

Maybe firing all those white liberal professors and administrators is the REAL FIRST STEP in fixing the problem.









oh look! here's a good one to start with:


This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 10:57 am
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:56 am to
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mizzoukills


You predicted Mizzou would win the SEC and go to the playoffs. You have not authority to speak on anything
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 10:57 am to
Kudos to that student for speaking out. She's right in EVERY way.
Posted by Brosef Stalin17
Member since Sep 2014
1090 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:03 am to
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Have you ever had black males in a passing car or in person hurl insults at you for being white? I have...more than once. I just chalked it up to ignorance and moved on with my life.


that's just because you are white privileged though
Posted by 80884
Austin
Member since Aug 2014
127 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:06 am to


ha ha ha!!! what a bunch of cry babies!
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:09 am to
"hurtful speech?"


You've GOT to be fricking kidding me. What's next? Getting told "liar, liar, pants of fire" will get you expelled too?


This settles it. Mizzou is the candyass capital of the world.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:17 am to
My guess? They were advised by legal counsel to take that step. CYA move if I ever saw one. They have to be seen as "taking action to make campus a place where everyone feels safe" at this point.

ETA - MUPD is going to be so pissed at all the BS calls that come in.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 11:18 am
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