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re: Last President to actually respect the constitution?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:04 pm to AGoodTexan
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:04 pm to AGoodTexan
Anyone who says Reagan is just delusional or ignorant.
Honestly, it's likely been before Lincoln.
Honestly, it's likely been before Lincoln.
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Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:06 pm to Bama Bird
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Technically slavery was completely constitutional... it's the DOI that says "all men are created equal"
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. -- Pretty sure the government didn't respect this part for slaves.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:07 pm to OMLandshark
I would say Jefferson since he wrote the decleration and every president in some form has abused it.
I cant remember what Adams it was that refused to leave or didn't believe the vote.
I cant remember what Adams it was that refused to leave or didn't believe the vote.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:08 pm to sms151t
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I would say Jefferson since he wrote the decleration and every president in some form has abused it.
Yeah, he's the only one really coming to mind.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:10 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
But if you were not considered a person or only 2/3rds of a person it really doesnt apply to you. That is how I think they viewed it.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:13 pm to sms151t
"The Three-Fifths Compromise was a compromise reached between delegates from southern states and those from northern states during the 1787 United States Constitutional Convention. The debate was over if, and if so, how, slaves would be counted when determining a state's total population for constitutional purposes."
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."
My case is rested.
"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."
My case is rested.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
But you are asking if they are A whole person. Not a part person. And a partial person would not get equal rights since he is not a full person. Again my interpretation of how it is.
I mean they believed Mark of Cain justified Slavery. So that since he defied God and was punished he could not be a whole person (POSSIBLY?)
I am trying to justify something that cant be justified I know.
I mean they believed Mark of Cain justified Slavery. So that since he defied God and was punished he could not be a whole person (POSSIBLY?)
I am trying to justify something that cant be justified I know.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 9:33 pm to AGoodTexan
Lincoln
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:24 pm to sms151t
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I would say Jefferson
I said Jefferson already, you cock juggling thunder count.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:29 pm to TbirdSpur2010
kennedy is so lucky to have died before everyone had time to start hating him. at least his legacy was lucky in that regard.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:29 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:33 pm to AGoodTexan
I would probably say Andrew Jackson and prior to him James Madison (he did write the thing after all) or Monroe. You could maybe go as far as Buchanan.
Lincoln took such an epic dump on the Constitution that he made ignoring it ok. FDR made it in to an absolute art form. Both men were essentially dictators if you really look at the power they wielded and how much complete disregard they had for the document itself. Kennedy certainly didn't follow it and was responsible for allowing the Federal Workforce to Unionize which is a disaster we may never recover from. Johnson took it to a whole new level along with Nixon and the massive expansion of the various federal bureaucracies during their tenure, they basically made it so the idea of Fed officials who weren't elected and were barely accountable could come up with whatever regulation they wanted to with very little control from Congress, much less the people or states.
The Constitution has been a cool piece of paper under glass that has little real meaning or power for a long time now. Most people are simply too naive to realize it or they are in denial.
Lincoln took such an epic dump on the Constitution that he made ignoring it ok. FDR made it in to an absolute art form. Both men were essentially dictators if you really look at the power they wielded and how much complete disregard they had for the document itself. Kennedy certainly didn't follow it and was responsible for allowing the Federal Workforce to Unionize which is a disaster we may never recover from. Johnson took it to a whole new level along with Nixon and the massive expansion of the various federal bureaucracies during their tenure, they basically made it so the idea of Fed officials who weren't elected and were barely accountable could come up with whatever regulation they wanted to with very little control from Congress, much less the people or states.
The Constitution has been a cool piece of paper under glass that has little real meaning or power for a long time now. Most people are simply too naive to realize it or they are in denial.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:46 pm to kywildcatfanone
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My vote would go to Reagan.
Reagan is the right answer. He loved this country.
You're kidding, right?
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:48 pm to OMLandshark
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Anyone who says Reagan is just delusional or ignorant.
You are just jealous you didn't have any skin in the game on all of those enormous military contracts that were being used by the industrial military machine. Don't be mad because you were not smart enough to sell it to a bunch of idiot americans that didn't realize the USSR who was already corroding from within was really strong enough that we had to give away all of our children's future capital as depth to pay for their destruction. Just be a proud American, keep your mouth shut about it, and say thank your for your service.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:51 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
He just making the accurate observation that Reagan didnt have any problem wiping his arse with the constitution when the occasion called for it.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 10:57 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:Yeah the jury never really got a chance to come in on him. It's too bad
kennedy is so lucky to have died before everyone had time to start hating him. at least his legacy was lucky in that regard.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:04 pm to MIZ_COU
Kennedy was a dickhead for getting in the way of Oswald's bullet and leaving us with LBJ
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:17 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Yeah but he was way smarter than you
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:26 pm to MIZ_COU
What about Obama. He has that hope and change thing going for him, gives a hell of a speech, and plus Washington has never seen so much transparency since FDR.
Posted on 6/6/14 at 11:27 pm to AGoodTexan
What the right wing shite is this board about?
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