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Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:40 am to AUFanInSoCal
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:40 am to AUFanInSoCal
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J stent
One of the best inventions ever cteated. I started to mention it but figured most would be like WTF is a J stent?
Posted on 1/24/16 at 3:26 pm to Hawgeye
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Eat a well balanced diet. Don't have much dairy intake. Still got them.
You didn't mention your salt intake but I'll assume it's moderate based on your diet comments. As already mentioned by another poster, some people are more prone to get them than others.
Eating oxalate-rich foods in moderation and reducing your intake of salt and animal proteins can also lower your risk of kidney stones. Your doctor may prescribe medications to help prevent the formation of calcium and uric acid stones.
Types of kidney stones:
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:43 pm to TigerTalker16
I thought the treatment was to use sonic waves to break up the kidney stones to make it easier to pass them? Still supposed to hurt like a muddaphucka. Hope you feel better.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:54 pm to Dawgholio
Any updates?
You pass them?
You pass them?
Posted on 1/25/16 at 2:40 am to Kentucker
I got yer calcium oxalate stones ratcheer, pal... from a couple of years ago. I actually passed both of these at work, three weeks apart. Passed the little one and thought I was out of the woods on pain for a while, BUT I WAS WRONG (said in my best Ron White voice). When I passed the big one in this photo, let's just say it had my full attention there for a bit.
Basically, I am a walking kidney stone FACTORY. So far, 11 lithotripsies since 1991. I have passed stones on three continents, at 38000 feet over the ocean, on golf courses, and dozens of other places. I usually pass 4-6 stones a year and average a lithotripsy every three years when one gets too big.
I have come to the conclusion that it's not just calcium, but the right calcium/potassium mix. Reduce oxalates as much as you can. Copius amounts of water is the BEST way to help through dilution. But overall... when you look at that list of foods you ought not to be eating (and for me, add in a couple of food allergies) it's a bleak, bland existence. So I usually eat what I want, try to do it in moderation, and deal with the pain when it comes. And it will come. But with stones, it is rarely dangerous or threatening, just hurts a lot. I deal with it and go on.
Basically, I am a walking kidney stone FACTORY. So far, 11 lithotripsies since 1991. I have passed stones on three continents, at 38000 feet over the ocean, on golf courses, and dozens of other places. I usually pass 4-6 stones a year and average a lithotripsy every three years when one gets too big.
I have come to the conclusion that it's not just calcium, but the right calcium/potassium mix. Reduce oxalates as much as you can. Copius amounts of water is the BEST way to help through dilution. But overall... when you look at that list of foods you ought not to be eating (and for me, add in a couple of food allergies) it's a bleak, bland existence. So I usually eat what I want, try to do it in moderation, and deal with the pain when it comes. And it will come. But with stones, it is rarely dangerous or threatening, just hurts a lot. I deal with it and go on.
This post was edited on 1/25/16 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/25/16 at 6:22 am to higgs_boson
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I thought the treatment was to use sonic waves to break up the kidney stones to make it easier to pass them? Still supposed to hurt like a muddaphucka. Hope you feel better.
Not unless they are too big to pass and even then you've still got to pass the busted pieces.
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Any updates?
You pass them?
No, It usually starts out as a dull to sometimes sharp pain in the kidney. Feels like you pulled a muscle. Sometimes it passes quick sometimes it goes on for weeks. You'll know when it enters the ureter because it will put you on the floor in pain. I can deal with the pain ok, it's the epic nausea and vomiting that make it absolutely miserable. When it hits, you better hope you're at home and not driving or at work. I'm at a convention this week. Last thing I need is to be carted through a convention center in front of thousands of people.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 6:55 am to Dawgholio
Cystoscopy is an option. You are anesthetized and they go in and get them. Usually when a J stent is placed, as well.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 7:46 am to Dawgholio
When I last had one, the urologist told me that Lemonade is helpful. It has citric acid that helps break up the stones.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 8:44 am to CrimsonCrusade
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When I last had one, the urologist told me that Lemonade is helpful. It has citric acid that helps break up the stones.
Citric acid (coupled with some olive oil) is good for gall stones... kidney stones, not so much especially if your stones are calcium oxalates. All citrus fruit are relatively high in oxalates.
In a general sense, drink tons of anything high in water content for the dilution effect. Sensible amounts of beer and alcohol are a plus due to ureter dilation as a result.
The bottom line is drinking all you can, preferably not coffee or pure citrus juice but vast quantities of just about anything else... would be good.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 8:56 am to Dawgholio
Nothing like dry heaving from the pain.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 9:00 am to Dawgholio
Fun story here. I was on vacation and one night I turned over in bed and felt a sharp pain like I had been shot or stabbed in my lower right side. Immediately brought me to tears and ran to the bathroom and started puking. Only 21 when it happened and my family starts to freak out. I was unable to walk straight so I hobble to the car and the nearest hospital was 35 minutes away. Threw up the entire way there. Kidney stone ruined the entire vacation and I passed it two days later on our last day there
Posted on 1/25/16 at 9:01 am to iglass
Phuck. I pity you poor folks who have these goddam things.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 4:32 pm to Dawgholio
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Anyone got any good treatments other than the standard water drinking?
Got these out with the "Jump and Bump" method. Doc put me on daily allopurinol after my second stones and I haven't had one in ten years.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 4:39 pm to Carolina_Girl
i had one on my 14th birthday- in one month that will be 30 years ago. first night i threw up til it was green, went to er. after that wasn't too bad just a week of occasional pain before i finally passed it. i've never had one since.
This post was edited on 1/25/16 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 1/25/16 at 6:15 pm to Carolina_Girl
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Cystoscopy is an option. You are anesthetized and they go in and get them. Usually when a J stent is placed, as well.
I think that is the procedure that gave me a 12 inch scar.
I was at Shelby Medical in Alabama, then known as Shelby Morgue.
Went in for a kidney stone that would not pass. They were going to use some kind of line with a clamp to get it. Woke up a day later, apparently little bugger got stuck and ripped down the kidney tube/canal and they had to open me up.
That sucked horribly.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 6:59 pm to Carolina_Girl
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Posted on 1/25/16 at 7:41 pm to Dawgholio
Had one. Never want another. There is nothing, nothing more painful.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:15 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Alpha-blocker. Tamsulosin.
....for some posters on tRant (not you or the OP, GS) beta would absolutely be more appropriate than alpha metaphorically speaking.
And I must've had a brain fart with calling it a beta-blocker. I read the quote and was like..WTF? I said that?! Herp derp.
I aced pharmacology in nursing school..finished with a perfect 100 while the course was the end of the line for 10% of the students remaining @ that point.
Only course to spell doom for more was management. I never did figure out why in the hell ppl had such a difficult time with that. It was our last semester before graduating and almost 20% of those of us still remaining flunked...I mean, management of all classes?!
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:47 am to Evolved Simian
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Excess protein in one's diet can be a contributing factor.
This is actually a myth, Dr. Layne Norton touches on it in this article.
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