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re: Is this murder?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:37 pm to Agforlife
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:37 pm to Agforlife
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I only agree with abortion in certain circumstances ie: rape, incest etc. I can see other instances where it might be a better choice but that's another conversation.
you know, i hear that, and understand it, but how often is that the case that a rape results in pregnancy? Very very very very very very rarely. Like i would wager not even a 1/100 of a percent.
i'm not lending any credence to the idiot, but Todd Akin's comments in the 2008 or so election were lost on deaf ears. There's not a lot of rapees getting pregnant.
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:39 pm to mizzoukills
Would it be any different if the brain wasn't being harvested? Would that suddenly make it different?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:42 pm to mizzoukills
to the op...Yes. It is murder. All abortions are, imho.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:51 pm to CatFan81
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Would it be any different if the brain wasn't being harvested? Would that suddenly make it different?
No. Therefore, is abortion murder?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:51 pm to mizzoukills
quote:this made my stomach churn.
Holly O’Donnell describes a medical technician using scissors to cut through the face of a newly aborted but nearly fully developed baby boy
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:54 pm to 3nOut
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you and the downvoters must not catch my sarcasm
I almost sprayed my monitor with water.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:58 pm to Alahunter
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All abortions are, imho.
So you would have a woman die if carrying a child were a grave danger to her health, for the sake of something that isn't even a breathing creature yet?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 1:58 pm to mizzoukills
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No. Therefore, is abortion murder?
Early abortion? No. Late term when the fetus is viable? Yes.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:00 pm to CatFan81
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So you would have a woman die if carrying a child were a grave danger to her health, for the sake of something that isn't even a breathing creature yet?
how many times is this the scenario out of every abortion?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:02 pm to 3nOut
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how many times is this the scenario out of every abortion?
Does it matter?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:02 pm to 3nOut
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how many times is this the scenario out of every abortion?
I'm sure it's rare, but it's still a very real scenario for some women. They should not be forced to give up their lives for a fetus. Ever.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:05 pm to UMRealist
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this made my stomach churn.
You have to get to the brain somehow.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:08 pm to CatFan81
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I'm sure it's rare, but it's still a very real scenario for some women. They should not be forced to give up their lives for a fetus. Ever.
no argument with that and i agree with you.
but this is a stupid question asked by pro-choice people on a regular basis attempting to be a catch-all. it's a one in a million scenario that people want to falsely label somebody's entire belief system because of.
99.99999999999% of abortions are people that effed up and want to get out of the consequences of their mistakes and bad decisions. not the scenario you're trying to throw out as a gotcha.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:11 pm to CatFan81
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Early abortion? No. Late term when the fetus is viable? Yes.
Where do you draw the line? How do you accurately determine early versus late?
If you can hear the baby's heart beat and see it moving on the screen during an early ultrasound, is that baby alive? And if so, does aborting the baby equal murder?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:11 pm to CatFan81
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They should not be forced to give up their lives for a fetus. Ever.
I agree. But outside of that situation and a few others like rape, I think a child deserves every chance at life. And a woman not wanting to have to drop out of college or get a second job to support themselves and the baby isn't a legit reason for them to be able to get one IMO
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:16 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I agree. But outside of that situation and a few others like rape, I think a child deserves every chance at life. And a woman not wanting to have to drop out of college or get a second job to support themselves and the baby isn't a legit reason for them to be able to get one IMO
This^
Sometimes justifiable homicides save lives.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:18 pm to Rebelgator
And the fricked up thing is men have no say in the matter. If they want this kind of situation to be TRULY equal, then if a woman keeps a baby that a man doesn't want, he should have every right to not have to pay child support when he signs over his parental rights.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:20 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I just don't understand why women can't carry the baby to term and give it up for adoption. Please understand that pregnancy by rape is extremely rare and shouldn't even be debated.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:21 pm to mizzoukills
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I just don't understand why women can't carry the baby to term and give it up for adoption.
Because of the very rare risk of them dying in child birth. That's literally it.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 2:28 pm to Agforlife
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I only agree with abortion in certain circumstances ie: rape, incest etc.
Thats just God's will for that girl to have a baby. She shouldnt have faught God's will. Blessed be his name oh savior!
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